Geek Editor (with two exciting updates)

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For the last several months, I’ve been editing the technology newswire at Suicide Girls. It’s been a lot of fun to interact with the community over there, and I’ve had a really good time digging up hawesome, amusing, and informative tech stories for them.

In the last month or so, the overlords are making some changes to the site, including the newswire, to make more than just a pin-up site. To that end, they’ve recently added a ton of new writers and editors, and changed our sections around quie a bit.

Last night, my section was changed from technology to geek, and I went from being the technology editor to being the geek editor, complete with shiny new title. I just about shot a d10 out my nose when I saw the change! Bow before me, for I am geek! Snort. Snort. 3d8 + 4

According to the announcement, "Geek is about video
games, comics, role playing games, computer hacking, Linux, OS X,
mocking Windows Vista, etc,"
so I’m pretty psyched to add comics and games to the list of news I can write and edit, now. I’m especially happy that any ambiguity about the deductibility of certain research materials has been effectively removed, as well.

I think it’s time for a trip to the Last Grenadier, then to the comic shop. For, uh, research. Yeah.

Snort. Snort.

42.

Update: In comments, Elayne says, "I don’t get it. Why are you writing for a pinup site in the first
place? I think it’s pretty unwelcoming for female readers to begin with."

It’s a valid question, and one which I imagine crossed more than a few minds. I know lots of you (about 16000 at last count) read this via RSS and may miss comments, so here’s my response:

I don’t have any problems with writing for SG, because I don’t find
their content offensive in any way. I really like the people I work
with, I like drawing a small paycheck to write and edit, and the little
chunk of community I’ve interacted with there (mostly geeks like me)
have made me feel very welcome.

I completely respect that not everyone thinks SG is okay, though,
and if you’re personally offended that I write for or am associated
with the site, I completely understand and support your decision to not
read my stories there, or even stop reading my blog entirely, if you
feel that strongly about it.

Personally, I feel like it’s a Venn diagram of Playboy, Vanity Fair,
Cosmo, and a flurry of tattoo and goth culture magazines, and I don’t
find the content exploitive or pornographic in any way. But your milage
may vary, and whatever that milage may be, I respect it.

Oh, and at my suggestion, the newswire has been made entirely safe for work, so you can read the news (like my story today about Facebook turning down 750 million while reportedly holding out for two BILLION dollars, which features a bonus Back to the Future reference, and some musings on how stupid online advertisers are) and interviews without encountering teh boobies. You’re welcome (I think.)

 

One more, after a few more comments:

There is an entire page at Suicide Girls dedicated to
addressing all the various rumors and allegations:
http://suicidegirls.com/trash/

There are also numerous testimonials from several of the models, who
all seem pretty happy with the site:
http://suicidegirls.com/trash/testimonials/

I’ve noticed that most people tend to project their personal biases
and and preconceptions into the site: if a person is opposed to nude
modeling (for whatever reason) they tend to think the site is
exploiting women, and are prone to uncritically believing the various
charges made against the site and its owners. If people are cool with
the nude modeling (male or female), they tend to discard the rumors,
and if they have an opinion at all on the "exploitation" issue, tend to
conclude that it’s more empowering than, say, modeling for Suze Randall.

As I said before, since I am an editor on the newswire, those issues
don’t affect or concern me. The models I know all seem very happy with
their work and enjoy being part of the site; the people I have worked
with on staff have been fantastic, honorable, and respectable people
(unlike the people I worked for at G4, for example.)

And I made with a whole bunch of the funny (to me at least) in this story about finding out where your Xbox was born.

No thank you, I! Thank! You!

43 thoughts on “Geek Editor (with two exciting updates)”

  1. Ooh! Speaking of comics, Stan Lee is selling one of his cars on eBay. Check out the license plate! My fan-girl heart drools.
    Go to ebaymotors.com and search for Stan Lee, True Believers! ;)

  2. Okay, that’s like twelve times. What’s with the sudden use of “42″? I realize it’s the answer to life, the universe, and everything, but is it something more, oh your great Geekness?
    I was lucky enough to get my pod person to finally give reading Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy a chance after one of those movie channels I can’t afford played the movie. I told him if he wanted to know why the bowl of petunias said “not again” he’d have to read it. Score!

  3. 42! It’s the answer to all things mathematical WRT Life, the Universe, and Everything.
    1, 2, 42! 1, 2, 42! riemann hypothesis, riemann hypothesis! Hike!

  4. Geez, rolled a natural 1 and failed my “read-heading-correctly” roll.
    I thought you were about to don a toga, spout philosophy and wrestle nude men coverd in olive oil.
    I’m going to take 20 next time!
    ya geek, ya.

  5. that’s hawesome, wil. i’ve never been a big fan of suicide girls, but i’ve found the articles that you’ve linked to from over there to be hilarious, informative, and (often) both.

  6. Ah, windows VISTuh ? Take a look (or take a google) at mini microsoft.com :) And have a good laugh at the boys from redmond f*cking up. Open source is the answer…..

  7. Elayne: I don’t have any problems with writing for SG, because I don’t find their content offensive in any way. I really like the people I work with, I like drawing a small paycheck to write and edit, and the little chunk of community I’ve interacted with there (mostly geeks like me) have made me feel very welcome.
    I completely respect that not everyone thinks SG is okay, though, and if you’re personally offended that I write for or am associated with the site, I completely understand and support your decision to not read my stories there, or even stop reading my blog entirely, if you feel that strongly about it.
    Personally, I feel like it’s a Venn diagram of Playboy, Vanity Fair, Cosmo, and a flurry of tattoo and goth culture magazines, and I don’t find the content exploitive or pornographic in any way. But your milage may vary, and whatever that milage may be, I respect it.

  8. OMFG Last Grenadier still exists!?! They closed down the one in Reseda years ago, and the last time I went to the one in Burbank it looked like they were packing.
    Also, Geek Editor might be the best title anyone has ever had for a job :)

  9. Gah, I will have to check out this site at home. Nothing looks bad like naked women on the computer at work. (Ok, not bad in my opinion, but in the opinions of those who govern the internet use at work)

  10. Hey Wil -
    I appreciate the update. However I was wondering if you could comment on the contreversay that appeared late in ’05 (see here: http://un-pink.blogspot.com/2005/09/i-first-came-across-suicidegirls-2.html) that showed the ‘geek cool’ was really clever marketing? The girls aren’t in control, some guy runs it all, and they’re paid small amounts. All sorts of accusations. I loved SG at first but after reading that I really felt unable to support it.
    Would just like to hear from you why you think otherwise.

  11. Hey, I just wanted to add in the female perspective that I think SG is a great, pro-sexuality post-feminist website, and I think it’s really cool that you’re working for them. I have a membership myself.

  12. Hey Wil,
    This is very cool, i cant wait to read more about your comic geekness. May i suggest you look into Alan Moores recent complaints of Hollywood on the adaptation of V for Vendetta.
    Oh and i sent you a promo for your show. Im not sure if you recieved it. Can you make your e-mail more available on the site? it took me a while to find it in the old website and you seem have many in your podcast which i wonder will continue? (God i hope so! I love Radio Free Burito!) So having some kind of direction in where i should e-mail, this that and the other would help allot and not make me nervouse that i sent it to the wrong place.

  13. a job is a job and a paycheck is a paycheck. Beats the crap out of asking “paper or plastic” (not that I am slamming earning an honest wage) or “you need space for cream?”. Besides, if ya don’t like the site, don’t go to da site. It’s like TV. If you don’t like what is on, change the effing channel.

  14. Jaie – I love all the LJ readers, but I’m pretty sure 16000 is greater than 4504 (unless King George Bush is doing the math, of course.) ;)
    Tom – Everyone is entitled to their opinions about things, and every story has two sides. The things alleged on that blog don’t have anything to do with the work I do for Suicide Girls, so I can’t really comment on it. It’s sort of like we work on different floors or even different buildings, you know? While I’m sure the girls who left have their reasons for being unhappy with the site, I know lots of current SGs who are very happy with the stuff they get to do there.

  15. Thanks for responding, Wil. Never gonna stop reading your blog, you’re one of my “blogfathers” and inspirations. But yeah, I’ll be steering clear of SG, I’m afraid. Definitely one of those places where a female gaze doesn’t feel very welcome. :)

  16. I wonder more about how the site owner Sean Suhl who is suppose to be a far right wack job. Use to post rants that were pro war and anti-Palestine not sure if he does it much anymore seeing that it cut into profits.
    As to not for female gaze it actually has a large female membership, it’s not all about nude emo and goth ladies.

  17. Geek Editor. It’s a GREAT flippin’ gig…one that I had until about 30 minutes ago! Boo! I just found out the site’s closing until further notice. (The owner has had a lot of personal/family matter to attend to.) But ohhhh….the joys of writing about all things geeky (anime, video games, graphic novels and such) and editing reviews was a job I loved so much I did it for free! Congrats on the revamped position. Any job where you go to a comic book shop for research just PWNS!!!
    I’ll add Suicide Girls to my long list of sites to visit during lunch.
    (SG kinda reminds me of Bust, which is like Jane’s neo-feminist punk-rock roommate.)

  18. Anyone who’s read how the SG’s are treated though has to question the ethics of the people running the site.
    Hopefully Wil won’t get screwed like some of those girls probably did, but then again, he’s a guy. Different rules for him.

  19. What I dislike about SG is how they pretend to be empowering women. Please. If you want to run a pin up site do it, but don’t try to spin your site into post-feminist bs.

  20. Personally, though I probably won’t be a regular reader of the main SG site, I have no objection to it; I’ve known a number of ladies who were Goth, or tattooed, or both. And anyway, you can look at it this way: if God hated female flesh, why’d He make so damned much of it?
    That’s a good posting on there, too, and an excellent metaphor. I have NO idea what makes these Facebook f**kblintzes think their little Web site is worth even $750 mil, let alone TWO GIGABUCKS. Hell, EMinds never pulled in enough money to justify that kind of valuation, even back in the ’96-2000 heyday…and I see even less of a business model in Facebook than EMinds ever had. Page views? Page views mean precisely squat. “It don’t mean nothin’ till the check clears the bank,” as my former boss Andre used to say.
    Your friend Jason has a good point, too; JWZ has pointed out that the ultimate purpose of all social software (and these days, that means almost ALL software) is to get its users laid. That sure doesn’t jibe real well with a site like Facebook and the whole “make money” paradigm…if they do get that kind of huge price for the site, that turkey’ll be headed for the F—edCompany.com Hall of Fame like Homer Simpson headed for a Krispy Kreme.
    But if the bubble is coming back, let me know, so I can cash in this time like I forgot to do in the last one.

  21. Hey Wil, if you have ANY input (and it seems as though you do, with the removal of teh boobies), could you maybe see if they could add specific feeds for individual sections? Because I’d love to subscribe to the geek feed, but I don’t particularly care about the celeb gossip or politics or culture parts of the current newsfeed. Also, the fact that only members can leave comments, well, that sucks.

  22. Wil,
    You do an excellent job editing at SG, it’s awesome that they kept you on during the recent overhaul.
    Though I’m a little peeved that some excellent editors who I consider close acquaintances were given the boot, at least they had the good sense to retain you and Shalome.
    I’m looking forward to seeing comic news appear on the newswire.
    Keep up the great work
    Haverchuck

  23. The feed may have been declared safe for work – but I still can’t read it at work because our ‘decency’ filter catches it. Darn.

  24. I’d like to add another voice for the ability to nab an RSS feed of just the geek news you edit. I will make cute eyes at whoever needs making cute eyes at.
    Love your blog. :)

  25. Gotta disagree, Wil; Elayne’s question isn’t a valid one. It holda a number of unfair and frankly wrong-headed assumptions, not the least of which is that women are not a significant market demographic for SG.
    It’s not unwelcoming to female readers; it’s unwelcoming to Elayne, and to closed-minded, prudish, controlling people who think like Elayne.
    That Elayne’s had this particular pile of sand in her crack for years makes her comment that much more disturbing.

  26. And of course a user with the name of Jim knows all about what would be unwelcoming to females. Are you a female? Do you know anything of what you’re talking about? Nope, didn’t think so.
    I’ll echo some other comments here, it may be a cool site, and no doubt it’s done its share of exploiting, but let’s not pretend that it’s empowering women. It’s just the same ole objectification you see in any ole pr0n site.
    Probably a point that doesn’t get through to the kind of men who see women only as objects. We’re people too. ;)
    If there’s a significant demographic of women who go there because they aren’t the brightest candles, then they’re the ones that need to sit and think a moment. SG just takes advantage of that demographic that doesn’t like thinking.
    This really doesn’t have much to do with Wil’s job as geek editor (except for the warning to watch his back)..

  27. Actually, there is an entire page at Suicide Girls dedicated to addressing all the various rumors and allegations: http://suicidegirls.com/trash/
    There are also numerous testimonials from several of the models, who all seem pretty happy with the site: http://suicidegirls.com/trash/testimonials/
    I’ve noticed that most people tend to project their personal biases and and preconceptions into the site: if a person is opposed to nude modeling (for whatever reason) they tend to think the site is exploiting women, and are prone to uncritically believing the various charges made against the site and its owners. If people are cool with the nude modeling (male or female), they tend to discard the rumors, and if they have an opinion at all on the “exploitation” issue, tend to conclude that it’s more empowering than, say, modeling for Suze Randall.
    As I said before, since I am an editor on the newswire, those issues don’t affect or concern me. The models I know all seem very happy with their work and enjoy being part of the site; the people I have worked with on staff have been fantastic, honorable, and respectable people (unlike the people I worked for at G4, for example.)
    And finally, if you’re going to discuss this, it’s likely that you have strong opinions and it may get heated. Let’s not degenerate into personal attacks and name-calling, okay?

  28. Plainsong, you are making a generalization, and a faulty one at that. I don’t have to be a woman to draw such a conclusion. That assertion is, in a word, ridiculous, and taints whatever else you had to say, or would in the future. About anything.
    Thanks for playing. Feel free to take your holier-than-thou brand of idiocy and shove it straight up your puritan ass.

  29. One of my friends is dating a SuicideGirl, and she frankly loves the work she does with the site. And I would say that the site is MUCH more accessible to women than, say, the BangBus would be (the first one that came to mind). Many of the people who correspond with my buddy’s girlfriend are women.

  30. Let me Just say this– I being a woman.. have done my own research on SG. I find that it is a very informative and interesting site. I do not believe the stupid rumors about the site or its owners.. I like it, and that is my choice.. other’s dont have to like it. So Basically.. live and let live.. visit the site or don’t..that is your choice, shut up about it..
    It’s all about choices people. Move on people, nothing more to see. Rock On WIL, You are doing a HELLUVA JOB.

  31. “As I said before, since I am an editor on the newswire, those issues don’t affect or concern me. The models I know all seem very happy with their work and enjoy being part of the site; the people I have worked with on staff have been fantastic, honorable, and respectable people (unlike the people I worked for at G4, for example.)
    And finally, if you’re going to discuss this, it’s likely that you have strong opinions and it may get heated. Let’s not degenerate into personal attacks and name-calling, okay?”
    Hi Wil, you’re right about it not having a lot to do with your job there… other than, well..as always.. watch yer back.
    I felt like Bill started something with the whole “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a prude!” thing, and I think _that’s_ over-generalizing. You can be concerned about exploitation without having problems with the naked body.
    There’s two sides to every story, I recognize that of course, but I have to be skeptical about such a site run by a man. The law of averages says that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
    But hey, look at it this way… you’re a poker player, and Geek editor at an obviously controversal site.
    Don’t look now, but I think you might be….edgy. ;)

  32. Perhaps I’m a little late to contribute, but I’d like to add my two cents. I respect SG, and especially the girls who appear on SG. I know quite a few girls who have wanted to be a suicide girl, and have participated in amateur photo shoots because they want to learn to be comfortable with themselves.
    Many girls do feel like it empowers them. That may not be the case for all of those who end up on SG, but it doesn’t merit a generalization. As for myself, I don’t think it’s particularly empowering (nor is it the opposite).. but I do think that it’s a much higher class of pornography, and not at all offensive.
    No, Wil’s association isn’t unwelcoming to female readers. I am a female reader (and a geek), and I think it’s great. We’re all entitled to our own opinion, and so yes.. some will be offended. It’s pretty hard to do anything worthwhile without offending somone, though.

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