Wonky

I got an email last night that described the current state of styles on WWDN perfectly: it said that the styles were “wonky”.
My feelings exactly. I hope to have some time to work on it today.
If you happen to know of a really useful book about CSS, please let me know in the comments. I’m looking for something really useful, like an O’reilly or Peachpit Press-style book. Something that will teach me the underlying theory behind CSS, and how to set up div.classes (or however you say it) and the like. Moveable Type makes extensive use of the [div] tag, and I think I’m going to re-write the site to follow that guide…Imagine a world where the navigation menu looks cool! Someday, you may even be able to skin this site, like you can at domesticat’s.
I must confess, I never really fully understood how CSS worked…I was just able to make it go. Sort of like having a cool old car, and knowing how to do limited things like change the oil and stuff…now I have to rebuild the engine, and I don’t know how.
I think this is as close as I get to asking for help…unless you’re roughy or loren. Then you really get to hear me whine.
Thanks for the help 🙂

171 thoughts on “Wonky”

  3. Wil…
    I can see how the comments are a taxing pain.
    I’m wondering if these are CaNaDiAnS doing all of this?
    Dear Lord.
    And, there is nothing wrong with the cheese.

  5. My husband pokes fun at me for using the word wonky. Now that he know there is an actual definition for it, he can shut up. It may have saved my marriage! Now if I could get him to leave me alone about saying “sack” where everyone else says “bag,”…

  8. holy crap. there’s some seriously creepy stuff being posted. this must be my glimpse into what fan mail is like. ::shiver::

  9. Hey u took the 100th comment! HOW DARE U! lol jk. umm ok no actually we’re obviously not canadians were from the U.S. and wut duz SPAMMY mean? yea jess, wut izza wonky?

  12. “Spammy” generally refers to comments made not to advance a discussion or impart important or useful information the the majority of listeners/readers/etc., but (to a first approximation) instead for any other purpose.
    Exceptions to the above rule include a general “hello,” a brief “hello” to Mr. Wheaton (SIR!) or, on any other site, to the site admin, etc.
    Personal conversations or discussions and personal attacks (brought up only because they have occurred in the past) qualify as “spam” and should, if possible, be limited to personal communication rather than postings to a publicly-visible note system.

  13. Yet this is scarily distrubing…but I must mention one thing.
    There is *nothing* wrong with Canada. (minus the few that lack the ability to spell which I so readily displayed earlier)
    Ok..done.

  15. While reading down this thread, I was considering posting a caution about posting spammy and/or scary fan comments. Those kinds of useless comments can only be trouble for the survival of the comments pages. Seems Wil beat me to it though.
    Sad to see the community silenced again because of some immature ones. Sigh. 🙁

  16. Can’t we all just get along?! And yes this is a
    island of sanity..so remember that when you
    leave a comment FOR Wil..remember him? Stop
    the babble and jabbing..play nice now.Why should
    Mr.Wheaton(sir)want to EVEN have the comment
    section if this is all thats here! Behave and
    play nice…from the cosmic mother..(or we will
    all have to stay in our rooms with out Wil to
    talk to!)

  17. Hey roughy.. sorry to hear that you feel such disdain for canadians.. and i was JUST startin to like you! (kisses)

  18. Hey Wil,
    I’m really sorry that a few have caused the rest of us to be punished by forcing you to suspend the comments for a while. Can’t we just leave it at a few overzealous, creepy fanatics, just being overly-excited about being able to comment at your terrific site, their lessons learned, and sit them in the corner w/big dunce hats on their heads and let the rest of us enjoy comments again? Come on, Uncle Willie, give ’em one more chance, whaddayasay?

  20. Wil, thanks for the props to my site. I’m hoping to add in a couple more pages to the skinning tutorial sometime soon – specifically some information dealing with MovableType, and something along the lines of a ‘master class’ for working through some of the trickier aspects of site skinning.
    Hope the comment situation improves a bit.

  22. Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
    Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
    Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
    *cough*
    OW! my jaw!

  23. Wil said: Uh. Yeah. I think comments are going away for awhile.
    Oh, great.
    We’ve crushed his spirit.
    In two days.
    I’d like to hear from the cheese on this issue.
    And I now regret starting the “I’m 100th” bit.
    I was drunk.
    And young.
    And needed the money.

  24. No more comments? 🙁 I was enjoying reading posts from & giving input to people who like you, Wil! In my circle of friends, I find so few people who watch Star Trek & even fewer who watched TNG… what can I say, they’re freaks! 😛 Come on, Wil, give us all another chance!
    Laurie

  26. Yikes!
    [Joy at seeing the return of interactive WWDN is quickly replaced by disgust due to fatuous comment postings.]
    Whatever happened to our quirky nerd haven? In any case, virtual saludos to Roughy, Rob Matsushita, Mandy, and JSc! 🙂

  27. Well, it’s been an interesting, fast-paced week. We’ve seen the return of WW.N in its greatest incarnation since the “glory days,” almost entirely due to Mr. Wheaton’s (SIR!) all-consuming addiction ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H… dogged determination and unwavering dedication to the project and we who frequented WW.N v2.x.
    In the past 48 hours, we’ve seen every man’s nightmare come true. A horde of trolls ^H^H^H^H^H… jailbait ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H… rabid fans incapable of exercising the small amount of maturity necessary to realize that Mr. Wheaton (SIR!), despite his virtually godlike status, intellect, and physique, remains mortal (BLASPHEMY! NOOOOO!!!!) and is just as easily suffocated/disappointed/bothered by uber-vocal, blind, irrational adoration, descended upon WW.N and left literally hundreds of lines of horribly misspelled blather.
    Now, Mr. Wheaton (SIR!) has little choice but to execute Lockdown Protocol Charlie. Everyone, BACK TO YOUR CAGES! BACK I SAY!!!!
    NO, YOU CAN’T GO TO THE BATHROOM!!!!
    Put down the cheese, and nobody has to get hurt….
    And here I was hoping that the first words from Mr. Wheaton (SIR!) could have been something like, “Frodo Lives!” rather than the quiet slap-upside-the-head that became so needed.

  30. Re: “Frodo Lives!”
    If you don’t outright get it, you’ll never figure it out. I know Jbay and Spudnuts and Rob and Mr. Wheaton (SIR!) all know what I’m referring to. But, you see, they’re all special.
    And not really in that “has to ride the short bus” sorta way. Mostly not, at least.
    Me, on the other hand….

  31. 120 frickin’ comments!
    How long do you guys think this 120-comment albatross will bring MT down to it’s knees?
    Any other blog getting 120 comments for extended periods of time?
    Anyone wanna run a “how long will Wil’s comments last” pool?
    Am I just exacerbating the situation with my useless comment?

  32. dogged determination and unwavering dedication ??? Right.
    I wasnt expecting much from shat jr in the no celeb section of the site and was fairly certain that after the trek movie this site was done for anyway.
    Grafitti is gonna be part of any BLOG/Comment page. Sort of a reminder that freedom of speech and uncensored expression is allowed.
    Heres a money making Idea, Get a photo of JSc kissing wil’s naked ass and then take a picture of wil autographing it and then sell it on E-Bay.

  34. Yeah, and the comments here a creeping me out a little bit too.
    And from a guy who eaten, uh, meat that wasn’t fully butchered, that’s saying alot.
    Goddamned newbies. Damn you all to hell!!!
    (bangs fists on sand)

  38. Newbies? Where? I see none *hides*
    Veto on the picture idea. Remember there must be a semblence of semi-PG rating, maybe.
    And the drow never leave…they just get more and more freaking annoying…*ahem*
    “So….have you always been a skeleton?” [as said by Amanda to skeleton with the deck of many things]

  40. Nope.
    There was even some bit about someone wanting to cut the cheese, too. What’s that about?
    The Cheese Frodo’d, too.
    Sometimes this is too much and the cheese just needs a break.
    A break like the wind.

  42. Trust me. You don’t wanna hear about the meat.
    You don’t wanna know what kind of meat it was, nor which part of the anatomy.
    Let’s just put it at “bodily functions not yet fully ceased” and “unconventional type of meat”, and “meat not USDA approved”.
    I don’t really wanna scare anyone away, y’see.
    The comments page is getting creepy enough already.

  43. Re:Picture of JSc kissing Wil’s naked ass and semi-PG rating
    Even if the ass is naked, if we don’t see much of the crack, like a side view where crack is not visible, or only the top 1/3 view of crack, then it would still be a PG-13 rating.
    Oh god. Please don’t tell me I’m obsessing about some dude’s ass. Please. I BE MANLY! Dammit!

  44. pssst.
    i’m beginning to think that the canadian jailbait powerpuffs are actually 40 year old hackers taking time out from infiltrating defence force mainframes and dripping burrito sauce down their sweatpants.
    call me paranoid (or hopeful), but i’m seriously getting an ironic, evil-genius vibe from them. i’m just waiting for them to slip up – maybe the latex masks will get caught on a hatstand or something.
    (ok. now, everyone go back to talking about css.)

  45. I don’t know if you’ll ever ever get to see this message at the bottom of the pile o’ entries regarding CSS, but I’d like to recommend my own book (natch 😉 called “Core CSS”, printed by Prentice Hall a couple of years ago. It covers CSS1 and CSS2, so it’s not as out of date as the publishing date might suggest.
    Mind you, at the moment I am working on the update to the book, and I decided a while ago to send you a free copy as “payment” for reading your interesting posts (see http://www.captmondo.com/weblog/archive/2001_10_28_index.php, “Wil Wheaton.com Rocks” ;-). The book won’t be finished for a few months, but if you’re open to getting a copy of the book when it comes out (likely by summer) will send a copy your way.
    8-{)}

  47. Rumble in the jungle.
    Okay….. twas a little weird, but funny.
    I would like to know how that debate got startred.
    freaky messed up people outr there, including myself. Scary.

  48. Oi! I happen to be Canadian thank-you-very-much…and I don’t think I am spammy in the least.
    Saw the discussion on the page, about Uncle Willy and Annie getting into a true blue, WWF style drag out, knock ’em down fight…
    I’d have to say I’d go for option number one, simply because it seems more entertaining. Two things you forgot Uncle Willy…
    1.Where’s the Ultimate Warrior and/or Macho Man? and,
    2. What about your big pseudo-retirment come-back that’s to be played out at a Super Slammy event in the (not so) distant future?
    ~Kaylin

  49. All I have to say is that if you can’t type out your words, then you are not conversing. Wil, please don’t take away the comments! Please? I hope that others won’t jeopardize our privilege. Wow, do I feel like a little kid now or what?

  50. Wil and friends,
    I do not wish to spam (having, unfortunately, nothing at all to contribute to the topic of useful CSS references); however, as Wil has indicated that perhaps his comments feature may be soon disabled, I am strangely compelled to add my newbie’s 2 cents…
    First, major kudos to Mr. Wheaton (SIR!) for having the desire, drive and tenacity to create and administer such a fun spot. Most refreshing… Good job… Way to go… Atta boy… ad nauseum…
    Second, any public forum, especially one offered by a celebrity, will suffer from mindless, inane intrusions by those whose maturity and/or intelligence may not equal that of other participants (witness this post! 😉 One may only hope that Wil will [~hmmm… Wil will?~] ignore the weirdness and accept it for what it truly is — sincere, albeit perhaps inappropriately expressed, affection for him and appreciation for his work. IMHO, the comments contribute something (exactly what, I’m not sure) to the site’s appeal, no matter how strange their content may inevitably become. It would be a shame to lose them.
    Finally, a hearty thanks to fark.com for posting the link to Wil’s site. As a result of following that link (and those herein), I have spent what would otherwise have been a typically drab morning enjoying a most entertaining oddyssey [spelling intentional] exploring the wonders of blogs and other modern geek cultural phenomena about which I was (and in large measure, remain) woefully ignorant. As an ELDERLY nerd (indeed, as one who is still enamoured of hollow-state technology!), it is quite refreshing to see that the Geek spirit survives, nay that it thrives, in today’s (to me, anyway) largely incomprehensible world.
    Thanks, young Geeks. You give me hope! Be proud, be strong…
    Colin

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