Wonky

I got an email last night that described the current state of styles on WWDN perfectly: it said that the styles were “wonky”.
My feelings exactly. I hope to have some time to work on it today.
If you happen to know of a really useful book about CSS, please let me know in the comments. I’m looking for something really useful, like an O’reilly or Peachpit Press-style book. Something that will teach me the underlying theory behind CSS, and how to set up div.classes (or however you say it) and the like. Moveable Type makes extensive use of the [div] tag, and I think I’m going to re-write the site to follow that guide…Imagine a world where the navigation menu looks cool! Someday, you may even be able to skin this site, like you can at domesticat’s.
I must confess, I never really fully understood how CSS worked…I was just able to make it go. Sort of like having a cool old car, and knowing how to do limited things like change the oil and stuff…now I have to rebuild the engine, and I don’t know how.
I think this is as close as I get to asking for help…unless you’re roughy or loren. Then you really get to hear me whine.
Thanks for the help 🙂

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171 thoughts on “Wonky”

Colin,
Wow. That post was…wow. Very well written IMHO.
I also have nothing to contribute to design of CSS styles (Hell, I’m an HTML Dummy and nearly threw my computer out the window of my second story apparentment when I tried to learn JavaScript. >.

i must say one could understand why you wouldnt want to have comments on your page. troll bait right? thats what i figured when i first came here, expecting to see 100’s of comments about how poor wes sucks. to my surprise i found thats not the case and in fact most of the regulars are gracious people with real lives that understand the difference btw wil wheaton and poor wes. so i think it would be a waste to see the comments stricken from record due a few trolls. someone blow up that damn bridge.

wow, so we were soo just the center of this comments thingy before, right? yea well you can put commetns back on because ill never write another comment to you, wil, if u want.
:'(

Need CSS training? Try this:
http://www.aw.com/catalog/academic/product/1,4096,0201596253,00.html
BTW, where’s the Stats4all striped ball?

If comments disappear, the terrorists have won.
Is there IP banning on this thing?

Wil, the site is great, you’ve got a outrageous sense of humor, and you’re a lot cooler than one would think.. One suggestion however; reverse the sequence on the comments.. I think the more recent comments should come first.. Other than that, WWDN is a fun spot.

I have used some CSS including div.class before. I tend to prefer the programming help on the web and have created my site to use frames and css. I know that frames suck arse but I really haven’t revamed for about a year and a half. Considering it is only a place where I can have family look through my photo album while I am working for the USAF in Italy. I had my camera stolen out of my luggage about a year ago and cannot afford to replace it. (Hey Wil- want to help a brother out?)
I read your site almost daily right when I get to work and look forward to seeing your work in the next Star Trek feature.

I, too, am interested in creating a table-less website, so I’m on the same quest.
Today, I found an interesting link that might help both of us:
http://www.brainjar.com/
Good luck

Will, Nice job on the site. It’s obne of my favorite sites. And thanks for the Slashdot interview. Good stuff.
As for CSS, check out Western Civ’s CSS tutorial. Not only is it about CSS, but it is written WITH CSS. That strikes me as somehow oddly meta-physical.
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/index.html

Wil,
don’t know if anyone in the above 150+ comments mentioned it or not, but I really like the Visual Quickstart Guide for CSS and DHTML. I normally hate those dinky visual quickstart books, but this one is pretty fat and does a good job of making CSS easier to understand.
josh

Hey Wil – forget the books, just get TOPSTYLE PRO from bradsoft.com. It’s a rock-solid, dirt-cheap, way-cool CSS editor.
It has a great help system that will fill you in on CSS details, but you’ll learn CSS just from using the product.
It’s from the guy who originally developed HomeSite (which is now a Macromedia product.)
I’ve used it for a couple years now and love it.

I must second those who’ve recommended O’Reilly’s “Cascading Style Sheets – The Definitive Guide”. This is an excellent reference and perfect for what you are looking for based on your comments. I’ve been redesigning my own website with only div tags, and it can now be totally redesigned with only a stylesheet change.
Also, I’m not sure what software you use for your actual pages, but if you haven’t already, check out HomeSite (formerly Allaire HomeSite, now owned by Macromedia). This comes bundled with a shareware copy of TopStyle Lite, a very useful stylesheet editor with an attribute/property reference and auto-preview window. Well worth a look.

Cascading Style Sheets by the dude that invented the chit, man…
ISBN: 0-201-59625-3
Cascading Style Sheets
Designing for the Web, 2nd Edition
Hakon Wium Lie & Bert Bos

What the fuck Wil! Won’t you please open up comments again dude??? I mean even you have to know that the assholes that say mean shit aren’t nearly as numerous as those of us out here who have nice things to say. Why cut off your nose to spite your face as the saying goes?