this ain’t no holiday

I’ve been meaning to talk about this . . . but it’s such an incredibly divisive issue, I’ve really kept my thoughts private.
I have seen this on TV just about every day for weeks, and it’s really heated up since Sunday . . . and I can’t just sit here silently any longer.
I have to live with myself, and living with the knowledge that I was silent about this is much worse than enduring some short-term controversy.

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134 thoughts on “this ain’t no holiday”

  1. I have to go with Croc on this one. He has a longer reach with that big snout of his, and as you mentioned he has an advantage with his Godzilla like tail, with danger ridges!
    Croc and his tail whips Shark in the 7th and goes on to face Dolphin Boy in the next round…
    ~Brian

  4. thank god… thought it was gonna be about “wrestling”.
    Shark wins. c’mon… it’s sole purpose is to chomp. Crocs ‘n’ gators chomp, but end up as Gucci luggage, purses, shoes, and belts.

  5. I just mentioned this today on my blog.
    Shark is SO kicking ass.
    And astronauts beat cavemen, any day, any time.

  8. No way! The flying croc will pwn that shark. The sharks razor teeth won’t even be able to penetrate the croc “tough as nails” hide. The croc will get a few bites of that shark and it will all be over.

  10. Watch Adult Swim tonight at 11PM on Cartoon Network and you will see what we’re talking about.
    (they show it as bumpers before and after commercials)

  11. I think…and please don’t berate me if I am way off….but I think there was a TV show where they were building a model shark and model croc and they were going to have them fight to see who would win in a simulated real battle???? At least I saw a commercial for this show…and I think that may be what they are referring to.

  12. “divisive issues…”
    “on TV every day…”
    “heated up since Sunday…”
    I thought for sure you were going to talk about
    the Gaza assassinations or the war in Iraq or
    President Bush.
    Who the hell are Shark and Croc?
    BTW, will William “F” Shatner be in Pasadena this
    weekend? Maybe you could give him an autographed copy of Dancing Barefoot. Rub it in!!!
    Freeman 🙂

  17. Dude, the Croc would PWN the shark. The sharks skin is weak and easily penetrated. The Croc is nothing but armor. One chomp from the Croc would SHRED the shark. Not to mention the death roll it would go into (Thanks Steve Irwin!!).
    Btw,For Julia.
    The cavemen would brain the spaceman and have him for lunch.Game over. 🙂

  18. Croc is so totally gonna kick Shark’s ass. Keep in mind, Shark can’t handle blunt force trauma due to lack of bones, thus that mega-Croc tail is gonna make Shark wish it was in an episode of Flipper. Secondly, Croc has that leathery tough hide which teeth can’t get through!!
    C’mon, all Shark has developed is the abiliy to hold his breath a really long time.
    Sorry Wil. You be wrong this time.

  20. Is this a spoof on the Discovery Channel’s show, Animal Face-Off? Because that’s how it went down. On Sunday. When the show was on. The shark beat the croc after getting it’s fin ripped off and taking some head damage. The shark kicks ass!

  21. Kane-
    Astronaut would get out of the way of the club! As long as he’s not in his spacesuit. Those make you very clumsy, esp. on land.
    Astronaut can use tactics and clubs of his own. Do you know how fit the astronauts are? Damn man, caveman can only grunt and club. Astronaut can plan, and better yet, talk.
    If there’s more than one astronaut, of course. It’d be stupid to talk to himself or a caveman.
    [for those wondering, this has nothing to do with adult swim. It’s Angel. 🙂 ]

  22. Starflow – That Discovery channel thing was a crock! The croc gets two major blows in, rips off a fin and the shark can still swim well enough to get the croc in the abdomen? Bah! The croc wuz robbed! Robbed I tells ya!
    Sharks are just creepy.
    The thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. …he doesn’t even seem to be livin’…

  24. Bloody hell woman! Are you crazy?!!! LOL
    The astronaut can plan all day long but when it comes to a physical contest the cavemen will always come out on top. Bigger, stronger and far more primal.
    It’s like pitting a domestic cat against a jungle cat. Fluffy’s toast.
    Btw, the astronaut can talk to the caveman. I think things like “Ouch!!!” are pretty universal 🙂
    Unfortunately the follow up statements like “Oh god, my spleen!!” and “Not in the crotch!!!” would be completely lost on our knuckle dragging ancestor.
    P.S, you do realize that it was all about forshadowing for Illyria right? We know how that ended.

  25. Dude! you had me thinking you were gonna talk about something solemn and serious. I turned down the music so I might be able to concentrate.
    you sly devil, you.

  27. Wil, I suggest medication. You might want to let the spam through that offers some at low, discount prices. I can tell you they are perfectly fine medications. Just don’t make the mistake I made-follow the Dr’s orders. More is not better.
    Oh, and Croc is so going to kick Sharks butt!

  28. You know, you should consider submitting a few choice cards to Williams St.’s message boards over at [as].com. I’m sure they’d love to know someone of your stature is geeking out over one of their promo spots.
    I’m going with Shark, too, though I can’t really watch tonight. Gotta get up at 7 so I can show “Rugrats Go Wild” to a class of friggin’ toddlers at 9. Thank the maker I get paid…
    Why does the left side of my brain hurt?

  29. My aunt was golfing once, and an alligator came up after her. She ran ina serpentine way and escaped quite easily.
    If Croc is fooled just as easily, he’ll be Cajun-style shark chum.

  31. I think the dude with the comment that they put up during one of the commercial breaks had the best argument: Wimpy humans, us–and yes, even the dude on TV with the accent and the baby–can and often do wrestle and defeat fully-grown crocidilian-types. Now, you ever see anyone do that with a shark? Yeah, case closed.
    Though, I do have to admit that many people survive shark attacks, whereas if a croc bites you, it’s supposedly almost impossible to get out of its grip. While their jaws are weak opening, they’re unmatched when it comes to gripping; hence the wildly crooked teeth. Of course, people still do survive croc attacks, and I still say that Shark’s title of “Never-been-wrestled-by-a-human” gives the clear advantage.

  32. The shark has to win because the croc puppet looks like it was made by a second grader. The shark puppet is at least vaguely reminiscent of the animal it represents.

  33. Yeah, shark wins. He won on Discovery’s Shark v Croc, too. The croc may have a tough hide, but he does have tiny little arms and a soft belly, which the shark can totall tear into. Also, crocs are imobile when flipped over. Shark will p0wz.

  34. Oh as IF. What is Shark without his jet pack? Croc has the amphibian advantage – teeth to rival Shark’s and speed on land and in water.

  36. I had no idea what you were talking about but gathered you must be geeking over ADULT SWIM and so turned to the channel and what do I see but a flying shark and equally disturbing flying crocodile. I try to stay out of this sort of heated debate but in this case I think it is absolutely obvious that Shark has it…cause anyone who can get their tale handed to them by Steve Irwin or worse yet Paul Hogan doesn’t deserve to battle at all.
    Oh,and Caveman. Seriously.

  39. In the battle against caveman and astronaut, I say cavewoman. Why? Because she’ll nag them both to death.
    (Stop fighting… Don’t make a mess… I’ve been cleaning for hours and you mess this cave up in 3 seconds… No, I will NOT make snacks for your friend… We’re supposed to go visit my mother and you’re goofing off… blah, blah, blah…)
    And this comment is brought to you by a woman…
    :)-

  40. Yeah, yeah…shark wins..blah, blah. The real question is: who’s gonna win next? Lion vs. Tiger? My money (and when I say ‘money,’ I mean ‘cheerios’)is on the tiger.

  41. Wow, some people really have to stop swiping their kids’ Ritalin. Honestly, I love you lots. But…wow.
    Hugs and kisses,
    Gwalchmai The Absent (who has no *earthly* idea what any of this is about, other than he’s more afraid of sharks than crocodiles, though he’d rather not be eaten by either species)

  45. Shark all the way baby! Have you ever heard scary music when a crock is around?? There’s a reason for that. Regular people can wrestle crocks but no one even thinks about wrestling sharks.

  46. from my blog 04.03.04: a quote from hugo weaving, talking about who would win in a fight between elrond and agent smith:
    “Elrond slashes his sword up and down if you squeeze his little legs together. Agent Smith, on the other hand, simply wields a pistol at the end of an outstretched arm.
    “Elrond’s got the movable pieces. And he’s also bigger,” Weaving says, after due consideration. “Smith, on the other hand, has got a gun. But then, Elrond’s immortal…”
    my completely partisan picks: elrond over agent smith, and astronauts over cavemen. don’t know about sharks or crocs.

  48. Shark is going to win for sure, as Wil said it’s all in the Trogdor arm… remember a vote against shark is a vote against trogdor.
    As for the other debate, Cavemen would win, we all know that.

  49. Now, I didn’t watch this show that you guys are talking about, but I am catching some caveman vs. astronaut comments. Now, I’ve been debating that one since Spike & Angel were arguing over it on the show Angel a few weeks back. Totally the astronaut. No question. So, going by the last comment I saw about this the score is now 3 to 3.

  50. OK, make that 4 to 3 in the caveman’s favor. I must have missed the comment before mine. But that is WRONG! Astronaut’s are much more intelligent. They can think of strategies & all that good stuff. Come on!

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