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I have a sticker on my car that says, "There is no place like 127.0.0.1"

I get to explain it to a lot of people, and I’m usually rewarded with a blank look, followed by a pitying look, followed by parents holding on tightly to their children as they move away slowly at first, then quickly, never turning their backs on me.

Such is the life of a geek among normals.

My pal R. Stevens, creator of the always-awesome Diesel Sweeties comic, has a new T-shirt with a different take on the 127.0.0.1 joke that hit a little close to 127.0.0.1 for me:

Loneliestnumber500

There will be 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get this shirt, and those who don’t.

(Okay, that was taking it just a little to far, I will admit.)

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31 January, 2008 Wil

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53 thoughts on “the loneliest number”

  1. RakDaddy says:
    31 January, 2008 at 11:56 am

    There will be 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get this shirt, and those who don’t.
    You, sir, are my hero for the day.

  2. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Wil, clear your name, prove that you are more than just a wannabe geek, how many programming languages do you “speak”? How well do you know unix based systems based on something other than mac’s OS, such as Linux or freeBSD? Anything, please, knowing a loopback alias does not make you geek… you barely reach the “kid next door” level based on your knowledge displayed here, don’t be shy 🙂

  3. RussG says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Of course there can also be 127.0.0.2 – 127.255.255.254, but then that would probably be considered schizophrenic.

  4. Wil says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    You may want to read some of my archives before casting aspersions, Cypox. I suggest a search for “Linux” or “Perl” will get you started.

  5. lowlight69 says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    you could also use
    ::1
    that one is for the ubergeeks. 🙂
    http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2460.html

  6. ILikePi says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    Oh man, this is screaming to be IPv6-ified…
    ::1 is the loneliest number

  7. Mike Cohen says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    I have a T-shirt that says:
    THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE ~

  8. caitlen315 says:
    31 January, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    10 kinds of people t-shirt. ♥Think Geek

  9. leathej1 says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    There truly is no place like localhost. Oh, wait – I was using my Oracle TNS geek translator. Ah, o-ho! Yes, very good. Ha!

  10. Jeffrey McBeth says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    ::1 isn’t for ubergeeks
    0x7f000001 is for geeks
    2,130,706,433 is for ubergeeks

  11. kristinalead says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Ah, for simpler times when your teacher asked you what 12 x 12 was, and you got to reply, with great enthusiam, “Gross!”

  12. applecore says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Reminds me of a favorite geek joke:
    There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can’t.

  13. Lanna Lee Maheux-Quinn says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Well, I was one who didn’t “get the shirt.”
    But then Google told me via Wikipedia.
    I love hanging out here because it makes me feel normal. =0)

  14. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Wil, you’re a wonderful person but a geek, sir, you are not. http://tinyurl.com/2h3lp7 only underlines my statement 😛
    Oh, right, perl is a scripting language 🙂 but with perl you just jumped up to “the weird guy down the street” on my chart, should my view mean anything to anyone but myself.
    Make a contribution to the open-source community and I’ll stand in awe of your “geekness” (even with a perl script).
    I was not trying to “cast aspersions”, I was posting a comment on how, based on what I’ve read, you’re not just a geek within my understanding of the word.
    It does however have many meanings, I’ll refrain from commenting any other than ones related to the IT/Networking domain.

  15. Darth Paradox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    There are more types of geeks than just coding geeks, Cypox. Don’t pretend that your particular sub-subculture owns the label in whole.

  16. EdgarLives says:
    31 January, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Cypox, you’re violating Wil’s current web site motto (Don’t be a dick!). Of course Wil is a geek, that’s why we love him. He knows computers and he is passionate about technology and poker and writing and scifi. That makes him a geek in my book. And, although it appears his technical abilities will never let him fix his main web site, and he will clearly be in exile forever, he is still one of the coolest geeks I know.
    However, you sir, are a dick!

  17. Kelly Hills says:
    31 January, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    There will be 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get this shirt, and those who don’t.
    (Okay, that was taking it just a little to far, I will admit.)

    Sigh.
    I am now forced to admit that I actually had to re-read the sentence before several times, before seeing the TEN, instead of the TWO.
    And I don’t even work in the damned industry anymore. I am so, so sad.

  18. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Indeed Darth Paradox, indeed.
    Perhaps I should have been even more specific.
    EdgarLives, I actually agree, thanks for a slap in the face, will someone prove me wrong or should I start admiring blog’s therapeutic value right now? 🙂
    I apologize if my comments appeared offensive to anyone, these are indeed only comments and only mine :)(and subject to swift change).
    “I get to explain it to a lot of people, and I’m usually rewarded with a blank look,”
    This is what I’m commenting about, Wil, polish that “just a geek” badge and boldly say that you do not have a blank look on your face.
    EdgarLives, again, thanks, that short list is the very reason I’m a regular visitor to Wil’s blog. Articles are interesting, we share many similar interests and simply put I love spending my time reading it.

  19. Andy says:
    31 January, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    As Douglas Adams might have said, “I may be a sorry case, but I don’t write jokes in base-2”.
    This post FTW, whatever that means 🙂

  20. EdgarLives says:
    31 January, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Cypox is no longer a dick. 🙂

  21. Animeraider says:
    31 January, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Am I the only person with a Three Dog Night song in his head now?
    /feeling old. must play guitar hero to regenerate.

  22. kristinalead says:
    31 January, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Animeraider, you are not alone…

  23. Celtic Mama says:
    31 January, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    My hubby and I are both geeks. He is a computer geek who gets paid to be one. I am a sci-fi geek and proud of it. He got the joke, I didn’t. Geeks come in all shapes and sizes. We are both geeks, yet different kinds.

  24. Vavu2001 says:
    31 January, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    As an old school geek, the kind who first programmed in Fortran using Hollerith cards (real stone knives and bear skin stuff), I think I have some qualifications on judging geekness. For the record, anyone who gets to be a guest speaker at a Linux convention (I’ve heard an MP3 of his performance) pretty much qualifies as a geek. You don’t have to be able to program the original Altair 8800 (without a keyboard) to be considered a member of Geekdom. Let us not copy the status clinging ways of the nongeek world and try to put people in little corners so we can feel better about ourselves.

  25. Shawn Powers says:
    31 January, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    heh — I actually wear both the “No place like 127..” shirt, AND the “10 kinds of people” shirt in 2 different product reviews at Linux Journal.
    http://www.linuxjournal.com/video
    I love it when people “get” stuff like that. My favorite though is the XKCD “Sudo Make Me a Sandwich” shirt. But that one is REALLY hard to explain…

  26. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Vavu2001, I disagree. If you are referring to http://tinyurl.com/ywg3up Wil talked about a search engine (I didn’t manage to find out if he developed it), I’ve read that interview hoping that I’ll stumble upon some technical questions (and answers) but the only thing I’ve found out is that Wil knows how to install a mainstream linux distro… that makes you a geek?
    Wil, did you at least compile the kernel from source? 🙂
    Sorry if I’m pushing it but if “I know what 127.0.0.1 is” is something that makes you a geek (paraphrasing Wil here), then please expand that statement a bit.
    I’m not asking anyone to learn C, know tcp/ip insideout or, as you say, Fortran… what I’m hoping for is a tiny shred of evidence that Wil indeed, let’s say, knows Perl past “Hello world” level… a link from his scripting past…. anything really… a kdelook or gnomelook background image? A contribution to some noname dead distro?
    I’m not demanding anyone to *prove* anything (who am I to do that?), I’m simply asking for some help with my search endeavorers, as I’ve found no facts that would make Wil a geek of a level he sees himself to be, from my point of view.
    (I tried to watch my wording but there’s really no other way to say it using my somewhat limited english 🙂 please take that into account before calling me a )

  27. Celtic Mama says:
    31 January, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Like everyone has said over and over, computer guys don’t own the title “Geek.” Pure and simple. I read Douglas Adams and other sci-fi books like Star Trek and Star Wars books, I’m into astronomy and geology in a big way. I read comics. I’m a geek, too. And so is Wil.

  28. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Point taken Celtic Mama, however Wil touched the Perl and Linux domain, not I.
    I’m just trying to find out what he was referring to, other than his comments on “the geek stuff”.
    Is that evil?

  29. Wil says:
    31 January, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    This is veering into fucking retarded territory. Don’t feed the troll, people.

  30. Celtic Mama says:
    31 January, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Agreed, Wil. Now… about the number 42…

  31. starshine_diva says:
    31 January, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    LOL. Love it.
    I’ll leave it at that.

  32. Simply Caitlin says:
    31 January, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Woohoo Wil gettin’ snippy!
    As for me…yeah, I looked at this entry and said “what?” I get it now after reading all the comments and wow hostility..but..yeah.
    I don’t know if that makes me not a geek, but i love Wil just the same 🙂

  33. Cypox says:
    31 January, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Troll?
    If that’s how you see my comments Wil, I urge you to delete them. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

  34. greybalt says:
    31 January, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    cypox,
    you are really pushing the “dicK” envelope.
    because you obviously haven’t figured out how to use the interwebs to find out information you probably didn’t know that Wil used to work as a programmer for a company called Newtek developing something called a Video Toaster.
    You on the other hand we know nothing about.

  35. bjimba says:
    31 January, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Well, now, I *must* get that t-shirt, since this will now allow me to combine IP address geekery with Harry Nilsson geekery (I’ve been a member of the NilssonWeb internet community for over ten years).
    For those who don’t understand this — Harry Nilsson wrote the song “One”.
    Jim R — #84 of 300

  36. Jon C says:
    1 February, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Dudes! I totally found this cool IP addy you HAVE to look up, its got the newest DVD rips and some awesome gamefiles for out of ‘print’ games. Duke Nukem Forever is there too!
    127.0.0.1
    Did I get that right?

  37. rod says:
    1 February, 2008 at 6:48 am

    Ok, I am no designer but please could someone do something with “Don’t feed the troll”. This could be a cool shirt. Well, at least I think so.

  38. Katrina says:
    1 February, 2008 at 6:58 am

    I made these frames to go around vanity plates that reads “1701B”.
    I have yet to have someone tell me they ‘get’ the reference… most people ask me what a Nacelle is…
    I’d like to think theres at least ONE geek around here that gets a smirk from it.

  39. Vavu2001 says:
    1 February, 2008 at 7:17 am

    rod,
    That is a great idea for a teeshirt, very geeky.

  40. Toby O says:
    1 February, 2008 at 7:34 am

    I thought it was funny as hell when I read it in the comic. Let me add though, your bumper sticker and this t-shirt might get funny looks, but hey if you wear it you’re ASCII for it.

  41. Cypox says:
    1 February, 2008 at 8:25 am

    greybalt, thank you very much, I admit I was unable to dig that up.
    So, if Wil indeed worked *as a programmer* for Newtek, I hope he can accept my sincere apologies, I regret asking my questions in this manner and I regret being misunderstood to this extent.
    Sorry!
    On the brighter note I can relate to him better now I know he was a low-level (hardware) programmer, again, provided that he indeed worked as one and not just appeared in a commercial for Newtek.
    Keep up the good work!

  42. Soni Pitts says:
    1 February, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I believe xkcd has the final word on geekitude:
    “Real programmers use butterflies”
    http://xkcd.com/378/

  43. Xaqtly says:
    1 February, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Here’s the info on the song. “One”, by Harry Nilsson.
    http://www.harrynilsson.com/index.php?action=DISC&subaction=SONGS&detail=270&articleref=1335

  44. Wil says:
    1 February, 2008 at 11:06 am

    I didn’t work as a programmer at NewTek. I did marketing, design, QA, and whatever the company needed me to do while I was there.
    Now, seriously, stop feeding the troll.

  45. bjimba says:
    1 February, 2008 at 11:18 am

    @Xaqtly: I didn’t know you were hanging around here!
    I suppose, as far as lyrics becoming part of the language, “One is the loneliest number” is probably Harry’s biggest contribution. (Either that, or “you put the lime in the coconut”.) Every time I see the “loneliest number” idiom used somewhere, I am compelled to point out that it came from Harry.

  46. Celtic Mama says:
    1 February, 2008 at 11:23 am

    katrina… LOVE the plate frame! I need to get me one of those. Only we Trek geeks will get it.

  47. Roosterfeet says:
    1 February, 2008 at 11:55 am

    01010111 01101001 01101100 00100000 01010111 01101000 01100101 01100001 01110100 01101111 01101110 00100000 01110011 01100001 01111001 01110011 00101100 00100000 00100010 01000100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100011 01101011 00100001 00100010
    I’ve had entire conversations like that.

  48. Decibel says:
    1 February, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Ugh. I *hate* the “there’s no place like 127.0.0.1” stuff.
    “There’s no place like localhost”??! WTF?
    Home is ~! Sheesh.
    Sorry, this is a pet-peeve.
    127.0.0.1 is the loneliest number on the other hand, is cool. 🙂

  49. schell525 says:
    5 February, 2008 at 8:04 am

    I, too, and to look it up via Google and Wikipedia. Now that I understand it, I’m quite amused 🙂

  50. 1BigBank says:
    6 February, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    OK, so if I see someone wearing a t-shirt or a bumper sticker on a car with 127.0.0.1, I’ll think to myself, “There’s a nerd.”

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