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2008 geek tour updates (with an update)

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This is how the GeekTour ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

Bad news, everyone: I’m not going to San Diego Comic-Con. I was planning on attending with TokyoPop, and when they laid off a ton of staff (including my editor, which made me sad) they also pulled out of Comic-Con.

There is a very slim chance that I may crash a booth with a couple of friends, but I honestly don’t know if I’ll be able to justify the expense; it’s become increasingly difficult for me to break even, let alone turn a profit, at Comic-Con. I’ve got a kid in college, so justifying expenses, even for superhappygoodtimes like SDCC is increasingly difficult.

More bad news, everyone: I’ve sent a couple of e-mails to Creation about the Big Honkin’ Vegas convention in August, and I haven’t heard anything back; not even a “No. Now please go away.”

Last year, they’d sent me an invite by May. Since I haven’t heard anything yet, it’s already mid-June, and several people have asked via e-mail and comments here if I’ll be going, I went ahead and contacted the same guy who’s booked me the last two years. He hasn’t replied, so I’m left to assume that they’re not interested in having me participate in the con.

I have to say, this makes me really, really sad. I was really looking forward to both of these shows. I can’t do anything about TokyoPop pulling out of SDCC, but I’ve made what I feel are reasonable efforts to contact Creation. If I keep asking, “Hey, guys! Can I please come to your show and help you make money? Can I? Can I? Please? Please? PUH-LEEZE?!” I will start to feel like a chump. In fact, I already feel like a chump. And pretty demoralized, to boot. Maybe I’m “not part of the Star Trek family” again. Sigh.

UPDATED 6-14-08: I just double-checked my spam folders, and I see that the e-mails I’ve been sending to my contact at Creation have been bouncing back to me, getting marked as Spam. I’ve just tried a different contact at Creation, so hopefully this one will get through. Now I’m hopeful that perhaps Creation isn’t ignoring me, but just didn’t know that I was trying to make contact with them.

A little bit of good news, everyone: I’m still on for PAX, where I’ll perform from Happiest Days, and rock your world on MarioKartDS. Also, Rock Band. Oh yes, there will be emm effing Rock Band, emm effers.

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42 thoughts on “2008 geek tour updates (with an update)”

  1. shrednfred says:
    12 June, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Crap!! This is sad news. I was hoping to redeem myself by not acting like a stammering idiot if me and the kids ran into you again this year.
    Sorry Wil

  2. Aeire says:
    12 June, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Okay number one, it really, really sucks that you won’t be there. Number two – holy crap. I think this’ll be the first year I’ve attended, ever, that won’t have the giant omghuge Tokyopop bags that *everyone* seems to carry their crap in. …weird.

  3. geekgirl says:
    12 June, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    It totally sucks that you won’t make it to Comic Con. I was hoping you’d would make it to the Fark gathering (if they have one; they usually do). I hope you can figure out a way to get there. Since I got to meet you at Mysterious Galaxy, I won’t get greedy, though. As many have said, we admire that you put your family first and seem to have your priorities straight.

  4. casbar says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Ah man. So many people/fans will be at Comic-con. How could you not even break even? Could it be due to the profits you accidentally spend on all the geeky goodness you’ll see while there?

  5. Wumpa Yuna says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Sad for not making it to the two comic shows, but YAY you’ll be at PAX!!! I missed it last year and my fiance and I have been hoping you’d be there this year 😀

  6. Barry says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    I haven’t been to a Star Trek convention in long time, Wil, but I’ll wait for the next I go to to include you. On the plus side, the big honkin’ Vegas show has the guy people who played Mr. Homm and Leah Brahms. No disrespect meant to the actors, but seriously Creation, WTF? You can

  7. Barry says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    spring for them, but not one of the main cast of TNG who obviously wants to interact with his fans?
    Sorry for the double post…was having problems and somehow the second half got cut off.

  8. VT says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    That’s a bummer. Though I have an idea; see your email.

  9. Morfin says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    Sorry to hear about the problems with Las Vegas, but after 30 years involved with cons, I’ve found Creationcons to be mainly ripoffs for fans. I’m sorry they’re treating you so poorly, you deserve better.

  10. FEJ says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    That sucks will. I was gonna head down to SDCC also, but other expenses may put a damper in that too.
    Hang in there, and remember, wherever you go, your fans will follow, and it will be good.

  11. Wil says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Maybe I should start my own convention, with hookers and blackjack!
    . . . in fact, forget the blackjack!

  12. Meili D says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Sorry to hear that for you, though I can’t afford to go myself… As for the Vegas convention, maybe your contact is no longer there? I’d try the general office, just an idea… 🙂

  13. i_bleed_magenta says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    bummer!
    i still think you should come to toronto!

  14. madwabbit says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Come to GenCon, Wil, come to GenCon! You can easily convince ’em to comp you in for a room and registration for a reading or two, and maybe WotC would love to have you there to do some pro-4e spin! 😉
    Just a thought…

  15. KCFlatlander says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    Eaten by a grue again. That just sucks.
    I can tell you this, and this would be a fun thing to do in Vegas. Many years ago, a small tech company got out from under a large tech company, and was barred from the large company’s international user conference. I went to the conference, and the smaller company ended up putting footprints down all over the conference area (plastic sticky footprints) that led to a party across the street by the small company.
    That would be so cool to do in Vegas.
    Monkeys, UNITE!

  16. dino_grl says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Sorry to hear that Wil.
    There are still vendors tables left at Worldcon in Denver this year I believe, but again-the expense. You may want to contact them about being a guest, but again, the redundancy factor of the expense, as it is a 501C3 organization. It is also the same time as Creation’s Vegas con. Worldcon is a literary convention, and may be a better fit for you. I frequently sell as a vendor myself at Gary and Adam’s shows, but I have to be selective. I did okay at Vegas last year, but the expenses and placement of our booth, we pretty much broke even. You may want to fling a few leads out at literary conventions to broaden your market. Good luck!

  17. SorenT says:
    12 June, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    I’m re-reading Just a Geek and that “Maybe I’m ‘not part of the Star Trek family’ again. Sigh.”-sentence(-s?) was like a punch in the gut.
    Wil, FWIW you brought me into Star Trek. Probably’ll mean squat to you, but you did.

  18. Connor says:
    12 June, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    My gf offered to get us free tickets to SDCC this year (she’s got mad hookups), but I really doubt we’ll end up going. It gets so expensive so fast. Between food, lodging, toys, and the inevitable boozing, I just can’t afford it this year.
    Damn. Maybe we can get into some online GTA IV and take out some angst!

  19. danavee says:
    12 June, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Wil! I just saw on perez hilton (and you know he’s never wrong) that Ed Norton is being a douche about publicity for the hulk movie, and has refused to sign on for the next two installments. YOU SHOULD TOTALLY BE THE (next) HULK!
    BTW, I’m reading Just A Geek, and loving it. You just shipped me Happiest Days, which is supposedly a father’s day gift for my hubby, but is really for me.
    <: /fawning:>

  20. Lorraine Bartlett says:
    12 June, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Sorry Creation is giving you the old heave ho–you don’t need them. Stay home and take care of your family’s finances. As a struggling author, I think that cons can cost far more than you gain in sales and even goodwill. These days I spend more time than money working the Internet, which has been good for me. And as a former “Star Trek star” you’ve got a much better platform than me.
    Go you!

  21. Julian Owen says:
    12 June, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    I have to say that I’ve contacted Creation about a few things over the last month regarding the Las Vegas Convention. They only replied after repeated emailing over the course of a week. I don’t think their customer service is as good as it should be. It’s a big thing for me as I’m coming from the UK to my very first Star Trek convention. So Wil, maybe you will hear from them at some point. I do hope so, as I’d like to come over and say Hi.
    Perhaps all WWDN readers should contact Creation and demand you?

  22. Kareina says:
    12 June, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Many other geeks manage to attend cons by paying the admissions fee and attending, rather than going in an official position. Perhaps you’ve gotten too used to being a guest or a booth and it is time to consider being just an attendee again?
    Lucky son by the way–I had to pay my own way to Uni, rather than having my parents support/subsidize it.

  23. Wil says:
    12 June, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    @Kareina: I’ve thought about that, but the reality is, when I go to a con, I can’t just walk around and attend it like everyone else can. I’m forced to be “on” the whole time I’m there. I don’t mind that when I’m officially appearing, but it gets exhausting when I’m not.
    I’ve thought about just going to shows like I used to, but as I mentioned in this post, with a kid in college and five figures of tuition due each year, I can’t justify a lot of “extra” expenses, as much as I wish I could.
    . . . I kind of sound like a dick now, don’t I?
    I don’t mean to come off that way, but I can’t think of a different way to put it. Sigh.

  24. Gudlyf says:
    12 June, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Aw. No Guinness for you Wil, my friend. And I so owed you two of them.
    Ah well, all mine. Cheers!

  25. Fenlyn, USAF says:
    12 June, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    That’s balls, Wil. First, they screwed you on Star Trek the Tour at the cruise terminal, and now you’re not even an after-thought.
    You know, if they won’t take your call, maybe that’s a sign. However, it’s a slap in the face when they can get Ensign RedShirt #8 there, but you aren’t invited.
    I’ve always thought LeVar and Frakes were upstanding folks, and they always seem to have pull with the Star Trek Universe. I hate to revert to high school and have my friends beat up on the bully, but it might be time for the Geordi/Riker brute squad to stand up for the little guy and teach these Creation dummies a lesson. Your livelihood depends on things like cons. You shouldn’t have to be at break even.

  26. angie k says:
    12 June, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Hey, Wil, I’m really sorry to hear about the lay-offs at TokyoPop and especially how Creation is ignoring you for the Vegas con. That majorly sucks. Didn’t they pull this crap back in 2002? You ARE and always will be part of the Star Trek family even if they don’t realize it. And hey, you know what, you’re doing fine above and beyond Star Trek. It sounds like you’re busy with other writing gigs.
    I’m very glad you’re going to be at PAX. I would offer to play some MarioKart DS or Rock Band with you but I’m not great yet at either. But boy, do they rock. Perhaps I’ll toss a Guinness your way, though.
    Stay strong, hope your deadlines don’t give you too much grief, and here’s hoping they wise up and invite you to the con next year. {{{{major monkey mojo from austin}}}}
    Cheers.

  27. Melody Mooney says:
    12 June, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Hi Wil, this is Melody Mooney or Hygena from who wants to be a Superhero. I have a couple ideas and contacts to talk to you about as far as Conventions.I am going as guest to SD & Gen Con.
    You can email me or hit me up on Twitter (Stargeek)
    The summer of Geek must roll on my friend!
    Melody

  28. watcher652 says:
    13 June, 2008 at 12:15 am

    What?! You aren’t going to make it to SDCC? Damn, I was looking forward to seeing someone I know. This will be my first, and probably only, SDCC. I know absolutely no one since I’m from the East Coast and nobody I know is going. I had such angst trying to find anyone to share the cost of my “expensive but it was all I could find” room.
    And I’m not even a comic book person (gasp!). I’m going for the media hype. And to say I’ve been to the SDCC at least once in my life.
    My airfare just went up $50 since the airlines are now charging $25 for a 2nd checked suitcase. I’m taking some vacation along with going to the con and I can’t go on a 2 1/2 week trip with just one suitcase! I was hoping to add some additional copies of “Happiest” to my “need it for souvenirs” bag.
    Since I won’t be seeing you, I guess I’ll let you know here that I was at the the Philadelphia Wizard World and met Art Baltazar and Franco of “tiny titans”. They say “Hi, remember us? We took a photo together.” I requested Franco to draw Aqualad and I was going to get you to sign it. Yeah, I know you’re the voice of Teen Titan Aqualad, but it’s close, right?
    I hope someday our paths will cross again. Take care.

  29. annie says:
    13 June, 2008 at 6:28 am

    Wow! This is a HUGE bummer!! I am attending San Diego comic con for the FIRST time ever, which coming from Canada is costing me an AWEFUL lot of money! I’m going cuz my boyfriend always wanted to go… me personally, the only reason I wanted to go was to be FINALLY meet you and now you’re not going! This royally sucks! I understand why you’re not going, but what bad news! But you did say “There is a very slim chance that I may crash a booth with a couple of friends”… god I will pray so hard for this… keep us posted on this plz! Any chance you’ll make it (with Sean Astin, who’s scheduled already) to the Toronto Fan Expo con in August then??? You really should try since you have lots of fans requests from Toronto on Eventful!
    Annie

  30. nwc_orca says:
    13 June, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Those Creation dudes sound like jerks. That sucks.
    Regarding PAX: I assume us nerds attending with you should stay tuned here for any potential meet up planning?

  31. geekgirl says:
    13 June, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Just to respond to the person who thinks you should just attend as a “regular person” and you who somehow think you sound like a dick. Please, attending like that would be more expensive, not less and Wil, I totally get the fact that you can’t just attend as you would never getting any peace and everyone and his brother would be asking why you aren’t at a booth. So, please don’t feel bad and do what you need to do. We’ll miss you in San Diego, though!

  32. Phlebas says:
    13 June, 2008 at 9:32 am

    So does that mean you’re free now to join us at Dragon*Con in Atlanta? You can have a geek-off with The Bad Astronomer.

  33. Glenn Curry says:
    13 June, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    NOOOOOOOOO! I finally can get to Vegas and you can’t (so many year)
    …CRUSHED..I so wanted to slime you. Oh!There is incentive to go now, right?
    I’ve contacted Creation too. They tend to be slow in response. I hope they invite you.
    I hope you can go!
    I understand the financial responsibilities and family.
    Did you contact JUMPCON. Chiller Con. Try the east coast cons on for a change. I’m sure any one of those cons would be happy to have you.

  34. ReadReadWrite says:
    13 June, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Wil,
    My wife is a musician and there was at least one time when she agonized over why she had been snubbed, only to find out that the new person handling things at the orchestra, music festival or what have you (I forget) was in way over his head, weeks behind schedule, screwing things up when he managed to address them at all, and too apologetic (when she managed to contact him) to yell at without feeling like a jerk.
    Hey, maybe they are brushing you off, as stupid as that would be, but maybe you can actually talk to someone–then, when you finally get someone on the phone who knows something, at least you’ll know.
    Creation Entertainment
    217 S. Kenwood Street
    Glendale, CA 91205
    Phone: (818) 409-0960
    Fax: (818) 409-0827
    I don’t mean to excuse them though–it’s horrible of them to leave you hanging.
    Hmmm, maybe what they need is a few “hey, I don’t see Wil Wheaton’s name on the program…what gives?” e-mails. Just say the word, Wil. (What was that? I thought I heard someone say “the word.”)
    http://www.creationent.com/contact.htm

  35. MGL says:
    13 June, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    I must be a dick because I already bought the 4-day pass. If you are going, please advise us where you will be.

  36. joy says:
    13 June, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Ugh, that’s sad 🙁

  37. Julian Owen says:
    14 June, 2008 at 1:23 am

    I emailed Creation just after this post went up. You know what? Still no word from them! It’s a shame as they send out plenty of bulk emails telling us every new guest and funtion at Las vegas.

  38. ReadReadWrite says:
    14 June, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    I notice that the Creation “contact us” page says
    “To anyone writing to creationent.com addresses kindly make sure your browser accepts mail from these addresses when writing us for a response. We answer all e-mails, but sometimes they bounce back to us because of “spam” protectors that the writer may have.”
    Maybe wishful thinking on my part…

  39. MizKittyfantastico says:
    16 June, 2008 at 5:59 am

    Well my 30th birthday (which is the same weekend as SDCC) is made a little less. That’s not a guilt trip. It’s just heartfelt emotion that in the middle of that sea of geeky humanity the loss of one guy will be felt.
    If you ever do GenCon or Dragon- I’ll make sure the guys and gals in Barfleet have you on their VIP list and stock whatever booze/beer you need.

  40. angie k says:
    16 June, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Regarding the update about Creation and spam: hey, maybe things will work out after all. Yay. 🙂
    Mojo still flying in your direction.
    Cheers!

  41. Rayzilla69 says:
    17 June, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Glad to hear you are still going to be at PAX. I just booked my trip for myself and my two kids. This will be our first PAX and we are all sooo looking forward to it. See you there.

  42. ATDT1991 says:
    27 June, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Hey, I’m sorry to hear about SDCC, and pleased to hear you’re still on for PAX – if summer wasn’t such a killer for me, I would totally be there.
    You don’t have to worry about a thing re: PenguiCon, though – we’ve already put in an expense form for the van and four burly men in penguin suits, just in case someone attempts to hire you that weekend.
    See, we’re here to help! Our Hotel Liason would be happy to “liase” anyone necessary. Or unnecessary, he’s not picky.
    … why are you crying?

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