So I had this idea, that I thought was nice and sweet.
Turns out it was a really bad idea, and I’ve really turned some people off.
I’m super sorry.
To those of you who also thought it was a good idea, and contributed, thank you. We’ll be having a nice dinner. To those of you who felt the need to attack me about it, I appreciate your honesty, even if your words stung a bit.
I’m totally at a loss for words.
I just…well…I’m sorry, everyone.
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“Illegitimi non carborundum.”
I believe that’s the phrase Bill Bekkenhuis was looking for earlier, and it’s entirely appropriate.
I vote for the permanent donation button, which someone else on here suggested. That way, we won’t know what you’re doing with the dough and we won’t feel like we’re customers. Because we aren’t, right?
No need to apologize Wil, I thought it was a nice idea. A few years ago some people gave millions of dollars to a guy that told us that God was going to take his life if he didn’t raise enough money.( Who was that? ) But when he didn’t get enough money, he didn’t die. So people gave him more money in celebration of the fact that God didn’t take his life.
( Now That was a bad idea )
Tim … The Heathen
Fark took the link off. There was only like 23 comments.
Whew! I knew these farkers wouldn’t understand unless they saw the whole story first. The story link would have given all the wrong impression.
I think all the misunderstandings has been cleared up and no real damage is done.
All is well at WWDN!
Wil still rules the universe!
50 passengers at $250/head = $12,500
Two trips/week = $25,000
52 weeks x $25,000 = $1,300,000/year
Minus the cost of chartering the bus.
Sure.
And donuts.
Hookers too.
Mobile comedy, pastry, hookers.
The open road.
Or the cubicle.
You give that some thought, boss.
And when you come around, you drop me a line.
Spudnuts/Wil Wheaton Motorcoach Tours.
What?
You got something better to do?
Wil – *I* thought it was a nice idea. I would have kicked in some shekels for you, but we’re a bit strapped ourselves these days.
For the record, my own wife doesn’t complain about the amount of time I spend online…she’s probably spending as much time online as I am, on her own computer. True, she runs Windows 98 and I run Linux, but we get along. 🙂 Also, we don’t have any kids…well, unless you count our cats, one of whom is a 9-month old overgrown kitten who can be as rambunctious as a toddler sometimes!
I’m sorry certain individuals felt the need to ream you about your idea. (When I say “certain individuals,” you can substitute any stronger term you like…) But I’m glad Mrs. W will be getting a nice dinner out of it anyway.
Eric
God is going to take Mr. Wheaton’s (SIR!) life?
I like horseys
this horsey is dead
dont hit the dead horsey anymore
unless you can afford $5 per whack
if you wantto speak like Michal Kane You must only say three words at a time
Perhaps I’ve been sleeping for way too long or it’s just that I’m not a member of the “in crowd”, but who the heck is Wil Wheaton? Is he a television star or writer of novels? Sincerely…meaning no disrespect.
crap. I threw away my bluesman pinata.
All right, the more we post on this thread, the bigger of a deal is being made of it.
Was that proper english? Hell if I know. But do you get my point?
The terrorists have already won.
Wil,
I didn’t donate, because I’m such a newbie around here, it wouldn’t have been from the heart. But I don’t think you’re a jerk. From what I can tell you seem like a real stand up nice guy, who loves his wife. THAT is cool, not jerky. Don’t be so hard on yourself. I think that you’re pretty brave opening to the world the way you do. I feel a small amount of trepidation in writing little stupid blurbs for fear that someone might jump on me about something I wrote.
Hmmm…I read something in the Weekly today, what was it?…Oh yes, “The eagle my soar high above the earth, but the beaver never gets sucked into a jet engine.” No how exactly that applys to anything is beyond me, I just thought…oh never mind.
Ease up on yourself, you’re one of the good people.
Much love,
LK
Spudnuts, remind me never to piss you off. You are incredibly amusing, and in another time and place I’d wish to have sex with you, but I have the feeling you’re eeeeeevil to those who bother you.
Wait, I know you’re eeeeevil to those who bother you. What the fuck am I saying?
I need to eat more cake.
One more thing, then I’m back to lurking. I promise.
How much did Wil suggest, to cause this bitchfest? A whole dollar. One. Whole. Dollar. Maybe five, if you’re feeling particularly generous.
One. Fucking. Dollar. How much did you spend at Starbucks this week, or today even?
I think I’m done now.
Starbucks is the evil empire. We should be rebelling against them, not the inestimable Wil Wheaton!
We shall overcome you, vile Starbucks! Death to the tyrant!
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PATRICK: (to Thai whore) Make it so.
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WOW that was funny. I need to start reading the comments here more–y’all are hilarious! And here I’ve been thinking Wil himself was the primary attraction here…silly, silly.
What *I* want is a ‘donate to Wil’s stepkids’ button. Maybe this would be better for a particular occasion, like a birthday or something. The worry is not that the kids aren’t getting enough stuff–it’s not an issue of charity at all, really. Instead, it’s analogous to buying one’s co-workers’ kids a present–these are people you never really interact with directly, but the co-worker means a lot to you, and through this person’s stories about his/her kids, one comes to have some sort of understanding of what the kids are like and how they impact the co-worker. That means that these people are in some sense meaningful without having significant direct contact. It seems to me that Wil puts enough of himself on the site that it’s pretty reasonable to feel that way about his family, and when I imagine a co-worker getting something for my kids (at some future point when there are some), that seems like about the most considerate, coolest thing they could do. I think it would be wonderful to be a part of getting one of the kids something specifically from the readers of the site, both to show that Wil has created fans for them around the web, and also to show Wil the power he has over us.
Then again, I suppose if I were one of the kids, it might seem a little freaky, too. And what would we get for them? Toys might lead to spoiledness…
OOH! I have an idea. Currently, it seems brilliant–that may be badly mistaken, but hey, who reads suggestions from web posts without something of a critical eye?
I made a present for my cousins this past Christmas: a customized version of a game by a major manufacturer. In this game, the characters are each represented by cards with their photos on them–well, you can pretty easily get printable business cards, and it just requires some work with Photoshop to create cards with the pictures of the kids on them, and names to match. The board (also custom, with photos of my house for the various rooms) is a little harder–the best I could come up with was to get Kinkos to print it on large paper and laminate it. You can buy tokens and such from Cheapass Games (which is what I did–they’re on the web), and that’s pretty much all you need. All of these various bits cost money, but the kids REALLY like seeing themselves as a part of the game, and moving their pieces to places they’ve been. If Wil’s kids have a game they like to play that could be converted in this way, they might really like something like that. Even better, it could be more well-connected to the readers of the site than any store-bought gift, because I (and others, no doubt) would be happy to help with the photoshopping and design of things, if this is desired.
This idea requires further thought–I foresee unforeseen problems. 🙂 Still, it seems worth throwing out there.
Since I post very rarely, I’ll take this opportunity to give general kudos to you, Wil–nice job! I can really see where the article under your ‘Being Wil Wheaton’ was coming from.
-k
Spudnuts/Wil Wheaton OR Wil Wheaton/Spudnuts
you probably want 60% of the profit too
mobile comedy, freak show, wedding chappel fearturing the traveling evangelist, & Bible Salesman, Reverend Spudnuts
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.
What’s wrong with those party poopers? Nobody forced them to do anything….aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Ok.
Sorry Wil… I would have loved to send something.
🙁
bluesman,
I really thought long and hard about even including Wil Wheaton on the marquee, but I figure since he’ll be driving the bus, he ought to have SOMETHING to show for it.
I mean…
You know.
Besides the hat.
pattys right, not another peep from the petty party poopers, pity theres no pay pal for patty,
btw, its gin & juice if your wondering
Wil, man don’t worry about it. It was a totally aweomse idea. Just because people that got their wallets stuck up their asses felt the need to say shit without thinking doesnt mean that it was a bad idea. I mean dont get me wrong I cant see where they got the bad idea but let me give you some info from someone who’s been down the fan club trail:
If you want to get a newletter discussing up and upcoming projects and news about a celebrity
If you want to get a pic in the mail signed by that celebrity
If you want a bumper sticker or some other lame ass piece of shit that you are gonna lose one day
All this would approximatley cost you between 15 to 30 bucks depending the celebrity.
Now, I can find out all about your up and coming events, find out whats up with you, what ya did today, how your family is doing, hear your personal opinions coming from you yourself for free. Now if you want to us to give a little something as a well deserved thank you to your wife? Hells yeah I’d give you the money!
No offense sweetie but if you were my husband, I would so torture you!! I mean come on born in Brooklyn, raised on Long Island, now living in Queens? You would never be on your freaggin pc let me tell you that much. You are a lucky man and have a very very very understanding wife. It was a novel idea and all. And you said if they wanted to its not like you threatened to kick them off your site.
Dont sweat it Wil, anyone who actually decides that this is a crappy site is crappy themselves and shouldnt be here in the first place. We still love ya Bud!
I personally would give you the money but damn I am still jobless!! I can barely afford bus fare LOL. God it sucks being unemployed in New York!
I wasn’t pissed at all, because you can ask for whatever you want, doesn’t mean people have to give it.
But I think they were coming from the aspect that you dont HAVE to spend so much time on your website. You COULD spend more time with your wife, if you choose to. Perhaps, in this sense, they thought you were asking too much?
Either way, there is no need to apologize. There will always be internet piss ants. People SHOULD put their frustrations on real matters, but they like to vent it out on little shit (constantly)
I’m a newbie to reading this site but, i was a little disappointed in reading the orignal post on this. I know i would be consiered a “meanie” by some here. I didn’t think it was a great idea. I know what was behind the idea was nothing but the best of intnetions; it just came off wrong.
I know this would only get lost in the sea of comments on this one but i wanted to say that i’m glad you see both sides of this and i was relieved by the comments you made in these comments (of what i read). You made the best of what became a bad situation and because of that commend you.
Your still a neat-o guy 🙂
Damn, Wil! I’m sorry that you’re not getting good thoughts on this… just read about it at UE… Even though it is a super-great idea, and you’re wife totally deserves it, cause she gives you to us a whole lot, I wouldn’t have been able to contribute, except to say that I hope that you two have a great, wonderful, romantic, absolutely splendiforous time. Take a vacation from us lowly peons… you deserve it. We’ll miss you terribly, but we’ll live.
Fraize: Ha, ha, ha!
Scott: ROFL!!!!!! Brilliant. Wanna come write scripts for the web? You
Wil,
Yesterday, my husband bought me a WWDN hooded sweatshirt for my birthday. I’ll wear it, too! That will have to count as our contribution, I guess. Your idea was sweet, because (go figure) you are sweet. At least, that’s the overriding impression this viewer gets when I read your posts. You seem genuine and real, warts and all. Approachable. I like that. I’ve been visiting for a couple of weeks now, and have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know you. I’ve learned a lot from your site, and have lost count of the numerous links to other interesting sites that have your site as point of origin. Makes my hours sitting at the computer more entertaining. (Husband plays UO……)
Don’t feel bad because you had an idea that wasn’t warmly received across the wide reach of this web thing. Who cares? Well, the fact that you do says even more about your character. (and, I don’t mean the ones you play on the silver screen!)
Take your wife to dinner. Enjoy yourself. Count yourself as a lucky guy.
Best regards,
Corky
ps: I wonder if anyone in my peer group (demographics 49-54) will “get it” when I wear a WWDN sweatshirt? I’m still cool!
Okay I see that I have missed the boat (again!)
It comes of living in the UK and being several time zones away from the Wilster.
I usually wouldn’t bother chipping at this point but I have just spend the last 1/2 hour reading all 170+ comments on this thread. (Hey, its better than working okay?) It took me the first 70 odd comments to work out what was going on. As soon as I did I was looking all over the place for the paypal button. It took another 30 or so entries to work out that Wil had taken it down again.
I just wanna say that I would gladly donate to a ‘Say thank you to Mrs Wheaton for letting us borrow her husband so much’ fund. Please put the button back up and I’ll pay my share. Please?
If you can believe it, fark.com actually pulled the article and the comments off their site.
Atleast they had the common sense to stop it before it got out of hand.
so lets lay down the facts here.
1. wil spends a large proportion of his time here, as well as going to auditions and working, and caring for two children. something’s gotta give, and anne is obviously the most patient.
2. we all enjoy this site, right?
3. we thank wil on a daily basis for the site.
4. we like wil. we understand why people would want to spend time with him. we understand why his WIFE might want to spend time with him?
5. therefore, does it not make sense that we should thank her for letting us borrow him for a little bit?
honestly, people. PFFT. if you didn’t like the idea, don’t donate.
wil? put it back up. i didn’t get a chance to say thank you to mrs wheaton for being Very Cool.
Will
When i first read the proposal I had to admit I thought you were being a cheep scate, but the more I thought about it the more I thought it was a wonderful idea and how much I wished Ihad a guy who thought so much of me that he would do something so romantice.
I was pretty narked thought cos I cant conrtabute due to the fact i’m a brit, but if I could have contrinbuated I wouls have.
I love your site and your wife is a very lucky lady to have you hold her in such high regard. I hope she loves the idea as much as I do, although she might want top cool down first!?
*SIGHS*
Well, I was gonna contribute. I thought it was only fair I do. I mean, I know what its like to just want to get away frojm the cluttered house ( 3 girls ,GEEZ is it cluttered at times.) After a long weeks of 6 am mornings to 12 midnight nights, I understand what its like to want to get out !
I guess those who complained never knew what it was like to just want to do something to make up for time lost !
I liked the idea Wil ! And I dont believe you did anything wrong
Amy
I took me a while to figure out what this is all about, but let me just say that: this is your site, wil and you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT! Besides that, it’s such a cuuuuuuute idea *sigh*!
Take care.
ENOUGH already..dead horse and all.
Does Spudnuts have a website? if not WHY NOT?
I, too, thought your idea was sweet & nice. I learned about it yesterday during my lunch break at work and decided I wanted to contribute. Then there was an emergency meeting (yuk!) so I was called away from my beloved WWDN. My bad luck followed me home as I could not get my computer there to function properly. So, here I am now, at work and since I’m early I thought I’d pop over to WWDN. Damn, I’m too late to contribute! Well, I hope it is indeed a real nice dinner.
See-it all worked out 😉
I said it would be best if Fark should let the thread run its course. It would go away eventually when Bonaduce did something.
So Fark removed the thread.
Nobody noticed.
It went away.
All is well 😀
THIS is why I am not in public relations.
Let me know if anyone needs someone to say something stupid again 🙂
You know, I donated and I NEVER donate to anything. Not even to FARK. SO I don’t see why people got so upset. Wil, I hope you have a blast spending my 5-er with your wife. I think its cool that you will be able to go out for a nice dinner. I am not so sure about that card now though.
P.S. First post ever, just popped my cherry so to speak.
As someone who was probably labelled a “Hater” yesterday, I’m glad to hear that Wil really thought about this. In the defense of those of us who questioned his idea (many of whom did so with grace and aplomb), he did ask for opinions, both on the soapbox and then on the main page. Ask and ye shall receive, both positively and negatively. I do hope that Wil comes up with some way to defray his costs, either through ads or donation buttons, or some other means, and I also think he might want to think about creating a page or an e-mail account where people can write messages to Anne simply saying Thanks! They wouldn’t have to be related to Valentine’s Day, just have a button/page/address where people can say a few words to explain why they benefit from the time her husband puts into this site. It’s clear that many of you do feel really strongly about Wil and his site, and sometimes, just sometimes, the written word is more powerful than the dollar, so why not have an outlet for both?
Wow. What a fiasco. I came in at the totally wrong time.
*Pats Wil on the back. Hands him a beer*
I completely understand. The Hubby works for Microsoft, and people see him in logo shirts sometimes (because his entire wardrobe consists of two pairs of jeans and various logo-wear) and suddenly think that we’re Uncle Bill hisself. Bullshit. We have a mortgage in a really expensive area of the country, I’m not working because I’m writing and singing for shit money full-time, we’re half-supporting his deadbeat family and my redneck one, and pretty much funding about 30% of the annual budget for a local worthy nonprofit which would otherwise die without us.
And people still don’t understand why we don’t buy wine with our dinner. Or why we go to matinee movie showings. Or why he eats Taco Bell for lunch many days. Or why we prefer that people pay their own portion of a dinner check rather than split it evenly when they ate half the menu and we had fishlips and cheesesticks.
Some people probably think some poor obscure motherfucker like the guy who played Freddy is still walking through piles o’ cash. Get a clue folks. There’s dot-bombers walking around like zombies. There’s Microsofties getting second mortgages because the market tanked and they had shit broker advice. And there’s celebs who don’t make 20 mil a picture like Tom “You know you want to fuck me” Cruise.
I stand on stage and entertain people. I don’t usually get paid for it, though I’d like to. Being on the oppposite side of the 4th wall doesn’t make someone a god, a zillionaire or even a nice *or* nasty person. It’s just a job, folks. SAG benefits only go so far. And real people with real jobs love their families enough to try to do something nice. Word to them.
(rolls eyes) … “Geesh!” … get a LIFE people! I’m sure there are many other petty issues you could get your panties in a bunch over. BTW, when you go to buy that $5 Super Lotto quick pick today, you better stop and think … after all … how GREEDY are you that you didn’t donate it to charity??? Hey, I’m ALL for giving in any way that we can to those in need, but why in the world can’t we do BOTH??? And who are any of YOU to tell ME, or anyone else what we can do with our money??? (wags finger) … shame, shame, shame! All of you wannabe personal financial and morale advisors need to seriously look in the mirror and take major inventory before passing judgment on Wil’s innocently-intended surprise for his wife.
Wil, you know very well that your intentions were not selfish in any way, … I’d say from here on out, don’t apologize anymore. You don’t owe the nay-sayers a damn thing above and beyond the very humble statements you’ve already made.
{{{Hugs to you and Anne}}}
Well, I saw the original post. While I thought that the sentiment was in the right place, having the patrons of the site pay was not really the best idea.
Wil chooses to do the site and spend the time on it. We choose to read it. I don’t really feel any responsibility for patching things up with his wife if he chooses to spend more time on it than she would like.
I’m married with a kid. I’m also a geek and programmer by profession. I created and maintain a website that maybe gets a few hits a day from family and friends. I’m not asking them to fork over money to smooth things over with the wife. Yes, I realize that a larger scale means a larger time investment.
It’d be like me asking Rockstar games to fork over some cash to smooth over the problems that my wife gives me for spending too much time with that more addictive than crack game, Grand Theft Auto III (which I notice has taken hold of Wil as well). 😉
That being said, I didn’t feel the need to send Wil and email and blast him over it. Some people have too much time on their hands (that they need to fill playing GTA III).
Get the feeling I’m addicted?
Wil,
Man, I hate coming in on the middle of a conversation. From what I gathered, Wil asked, rather nicely from what I can tell, for a little kickback from all of the viewers of this site to keep it running. Then he decided to shunt some of the money for the one person that, I dont’ know if this is the right word, suffers the most because of this site, namely his wife. And the problem is? Anyone out there who has a family (wife, 2.3 kids, dog, etc.) knows that something like this not only takes money, but it also takes time (especially when you do it from scratch and not cheat by using something like Front Page Express), time that must come from somewhere. That time came from Wil’s family and he was only trying to pay her back for this taking him away from her.
I can understand how some people might get upset and cry foul with the “begging for money” angle, but really folks, ask yourselves this one question: Would you do the same thing? Would you, if you were in Wil’s position, with all his responsibilities (home & work, it is VERY hard to be an actor and get jobs when there hundreds of people trying out for the same part), try and give a little back to the people in your life that “suffer” for your passions? I would, in a New York minute.
I like Wil. We have talked once via e-mail and he was very nice. Hell, I even liked Wesley, so there. :o) So, give him a break. All he tried to do was something nice for his wife and if I had heard about this before all the fallout, and I had a credit card, I would have given him a fiver, no prob.
Wil, your wife is one lucky woman and you are one lucky man for having someone to inspire you to do something like this. Keep up the good work and don’t let the bastards get you down.
Peace,
Mike Bailey
I donated 5 bucks. I think it was a great idea.
Hell, if I saw you and your wife in a bar, I’d buy a drink for you. I doubt I could do that for less than $5. So I’m gettting off cheap, here.
Take her out, have fun, and let the haters have their whinefest. Their negativity ultimately only hurts them.
See Wil the posse still loves you…
Hey Spudnuts can we get gigalos (sp?) on the bus too? And cheese, lots of cheese.
Though criticized for being judgemental in a 250 word blog comment may turn some folks bitter or to therapy, i am lucky to walk away with these characterizations of my personality that will be sparkling additions to my resume (under heading of “Successes in Attaining Hatred in Less than 500 words”):
“moron”
“damn you nikole, its all your fault”
“selfish”
“internet piss ant”
“meanie”
“take a perverse delight in ruining other people’s day”
“eternal whiner”
just to quote a few. (i do have a job and my procrastination can only go so long.)
regardless, sorry to ruin so many people’s days.
if you care to know, wil and i had a grown-up conversation privately, and much to everyone’s dismay, we did not call each other names, swing bats and/or fists or even wage war on the family honor.
granted, i’m still not giving five bucks to the guy, but at least he had the couth to respect my opinion and listen. (though some celebrity fodder on my resume might boost me into a new salary bracket)
hope everyone has a great valentine’s day.
and my present to you is that i won’t be back.
cheers,
nikole
Wil,
Like most others, I think your heart was in the right place — and the folks who jumped you should back off and remember the old adage about people living in glass houses throwing stones.
“Celebrity” is a funny thing. As someone who has been in the public eye too, although certainly not as much as you are, I have found “celebrity” to be an interesting experience, but it certainly doesn’t define who I am (at least to myself).
I’ve thought about it long and hard, and still don’t have all the answers about “celebrity” — but I do appreciate people being kind and interested, and I try to reciprocate that kindness because I like to think I’m a good person, not because I just signed my book for them, or lectured, or whatever.
What I have a hard time dealing with are the assumptions people make about people in the public eye simply because of a perceived celebrity status. Those assumptions just don’t ever take into account the reality of a person’s life. Did you ever have something happen and think to yourself, “They don’t even know me but they think *that* about me?”
The negative assumptions that they make about you (and act upon by making snide comments or whatever) really tell you MORE about them than anything else.
Wil, I admire the fact that you publicly do show your life as much as you choose, and that you share your feelings about “celebrity” with others. It’s as much a part of the human condition as being a school teacher or a lawyer or a soldier and trying to communicate the reality of THAT life to someone else.
Hey — you’re a human being dealing with celebrity, and raising a family, and cooking sausages for breakfast, and worrying about your job, and all the stuff that makes us all human.
Don’t let the turkeys get you down — go have a nice dinner with Annie and have a great time!
CCP
long time lurker, first time poster
I think the idea is brilliant. My wife looks at the back of my head all evening because of the nature of my company so having the people that I slave for chip in for something nice for her would be great! They won’t of course, but that is another story…
Keep up the great work, Wil!
Can I ask a couple questions?
one question is this, how many of you feel like you are close to Wil because of this site?
next.
How many of you have friends, who; you have seen look at something that they would like to get or do for their wives or girl friends, and you-(because they are your friends) wanted to help??
To me this is not a matter of did Wil beg for money. It is a matter of how many of you feel close to Wil, and as a let’s say distant friend, wanted to thank his wife for putting up with this site.
I know that I value my friend’s far above any monetary or material means, and I use these thing’s to enjoy my life and sometimes share that enjoyment with my friends. If contributing to a valentines gift for a friends wife. Who has put up with me taking a lot of her husband’s time will bring her some enjoyment then there is nothing that would prevent me from doing so.
I know some of you will say “but we are not his friends” we are just people who visit his site. Well that’s fine, I am not saying I feel like a personal friend of his. I am saying that I appreciate the time and sacrafice that only a friend would usually give.
I just have one thing to say on this issue. For me, I reap from this website several times a week. I have thoroughly enjoyed myself for months. I figured that I could donate a few bucks for the great entertainment I have recieved from WWDN. I can’t even go to the movies for a few bucks anymore. If you don’t want to donate, don’t. It is not like he won’t let you access the site anymore. Even uselessjunk.com now charges people. Geesh. And Wil is nice enough to let us in for free.
You have gotta be kidding me. What is the old saying? Time is Money? I have a dozen projects that I would like to do but can’t. Why? because the family requires time. So when wil’s wife let’s him work on this site. She’s giving away something that can’t be taken back. His time. So where’s the problem with a donation?
Wil,
I think your heart was in the right place, but you went about it wrong. I think asking for money went a bit too far. I’m sure a nice “thank-you” page to Anne from the “community” here will make her just as happy as them donating money. I think the money thing bothered me, and others, because there are so many other people who put hours into their sites and, consciously or not, neglect their spouses. But, that’s all water under the bridge. … and I don’t hate ya!