533 thoughts on “Sadtimes”

1. a simple note to let you know that you will always stand out to me… and you would be sorely missed were I there!

2. I know a few people who got a hold of the finished script for the movie as well. Apparently it reads like bad fanfic and I mean REALLY bad fanfic. Guess that’s what you get when you hire people who know nothing about the show to write. Trust me, Wil, you don’t want a shit stain like this movie on your resume.
   Inuki

3. Here’s the Boycott Nemesis site:
   http://www.dangerousideas.org/nemesis.html
   PLEASE–if you want to participate in the boycott, link the site and email me: [email protected] so I can compile a list. I’ll need your full name, city and state so I can send this list to Rick Fucking Berman when the Nemesis run is over. Let’s let him know exactly how much his pocketbook depends on Wil Wheaton and his loyal fans.
   Solidarity!
   -Clara

4. Damn. =o(
   Man, Wil, Im sorry that they keep treating you this way. It isnt fair and you have every right to be there at the screening with your friends!!
   This angers me. I know what its like to be left out of things on purpose. I dont know what else to say. *sends Wil BIG HUGS* I hope that makes you feel a little better.

5. Hey Wil,
   Everybody has bad days sometimes, but it all has to balance out eventually, right? Today sucked a whole lot, so sometime soon — maybe tomorrow, maybe someday next week — you’ve got a REALLY GOOD DAY coming…
   Lisa

6. F*@& ’em…it’s their loss…you kick @$$…never forget that…

7. Wow…
   I’ve come to the website before (it’s really hip and groovy ^_^ ) so when a friend told me I had to check and see the latest entry, I thought it might be something just as amazing.
   Well, it was.
   It was amazing that he was that disrespectful.
   I’ll be honest, I’m not really a regular. And I’m not gonna say that you can just brush it off. All I can say as me, Danii, college student in VA, is that if it was up to the FANS, to the people who watched the show, the people who come to the site, and the people who love the series down to their souls…you’d have been there. And there are a hell of alot more of us then there are of him.
   Keep strong, and never stop!

8. Clara,
   Your site has been submitted to Fark under the Wheaton tag. Let’s hope it gets through! 🙂
   Inuki

9. I’m not sure if Wil will see this here so ill email it to him as well. Boycotting the movie wont succeed very well because I think people really do want to see this movie, and im not going to let the actions of one man stop me from enjoying the work of the hard work actors/actresses that worked on the film. However somthing does need to be done. So I’ll take somthing away from the studio and Rick Berman that wont hurt the cast to much. Some of the more important numbers that mean alot in the film industry are the grossing amounts for the first weekend. So, what I’m suggesting is not seeing it on opening weekend. Wait a week or so. Maybe being below some crappy movie on its opening weekend will get Rick Bermans eyes open.

10. i never liked that Berman asshole. now i positively hate his fucking guts. what a big goddamn jerk. who stole the soul [out of ST]? Rick Berman, that’s who.

11. most people have said what I wanted to say…so….
    ::HUGS::

12. Wil:
    This sucks BIG TIME! I have to say that I have also been “displeased” with the way you have been treated by the powers that be at Paramount–and that includes Rick Berman et al. I was never happy with what they did to your character after you left regular series work. The producers could have come up with much better ideas and used you more in the series. Similarly, by all rights you should have been included in ALL the TNG movies. For every movie that came out I would read all the mags to see if you were mentioned in anyway but of course you weren’t. You have been screwed royally and it is completely unfair. I suggest that when everyone goes to see Nemesis, they should wear a t-shirt that says “Where’s Wil?” This could be a national campaign. It could also include a big pic of Ensign Crusher looking all spiffy in his uniform. Maybe if and when a Star Trek 11 comes to fruition, there will be a big chunk of script for Wil to do!!!
    Go, Wil!!! Go, Wesley!!!

13. Wil:
    This sucks BIG TIME! I have to say that I have also been “displeased” with the way you have been treated by the powers that be at Paramount–and that includes Rick Berman et al. I was never happy with what they did to your character after you left regular series work. The producers could have come up with much better ideas and used you more in the series. Similarly, by all rights you should have been included in ALL the TNG movies. For every movie that came out I would read all the mags to see if you were mentioned in anyway but of course you weren’t. You have been screwed royally and it is completely unfair. I suggest that when everyone goes to see Nemesis, they should wear a t-shirt that says “Where’s Wil?” This could be a national campaign. It could also include a big pic of Ensign Crusher looking all spiffy in his uniform. Maybe if and when a Star Trek 11 comes to fruition, there will be a big chunk of script for Wil to do!!!
    Go, Wil!!! Go, Wesley!!!

14. Wil:
    This sucks BIG TIME! I have to say that I have also been “displeased” with the way you have been treated by the powers that be at Paramount–and that includes Rick Berman et al. I was never happy with what they did to your character after you left regular series work. The producers could have come up with much better ideas and used you more in the series. Similarly, by all rights you should have been included in ALL the TNG movies. For every movie that came out I would read all the mags to see if you were mentioned in anyway but of course you weren’t. You have been screwed royally and it is completely unfair. I suggest that when everyone goes to see Nemesis, they should wear a t-shirt that says “Where’s Wil?” This could be a national campaign. It could also include a big pic of Ensign Crusher looking all spiffy in his uniform. Maybe if and when a Star Trek 11 comes to fruition, there will be a big chunk of script for Wil to do!!!
    Go, Wil!!! Go, Wesley!!!

15. It’s funny… I think that to most of us, Rick Berman is just a name. But Wil Wheaton is a person that we care about. In reality, we don’t really know either of them…
    I mean, although you are real and open, and let us know who you are for real, you don’t know any of us. You may know that I called you a bastard for 6 months straight, but that’s about it. Oh yeah, I’m persistant too.
    My point is… Okay, I don’t know what my point is. It just strikes me as funny how everyone hates Berman… We don’t even know if it was intentional…. It better not be *shakes fist*
    -Jeffery

16. Man. Talk about rotten. I think lots of us have been in similar situations. You’re hopped up for a big deal with friends, an important gathering, and at the last minute, you find out you’ve been stabbed in the back. I admit it, I was disappointed too when hearing about the cuts made, and your scene was amongst them. This is untenable though. It appears to me that, even though Gene had significantly less power as the years went by, after his death, the Trek management has become much less human, much less caring, much less focused on the important things, and much more focused on milking the Star Trek saga for their own personal gain and power plays.
    And because of all this, I’m becoming more and more torn about my own loyalty to the franchise. I feel we’re being used, and folks like you are getting shafted for no reason. This is REALLY cheap of B&B to do. But, to be honest, I’ll not be surprised if Braga had something to do with it. Brannon Braga is one of the worst things to happen to ST. Maybe this needs to be publicised, and become a rallying point ot get the Fandom to speak up against this increasing arrogance. Braga must go, and damnit, you deserved to be at that premier just as much as anyone. I wrote you an email to which you did reply (albeit breif, it was cool!), and I’ll repeat one part, one of the best episodes of STTNG was “Final Misson”. It was a watershed moment for Wes _and_ for Picard, and that episode’s legacy, I think, had an effect on the character of Picard ever since, including in this film (a lot here, from the plot I have seen).
    Lastly, look at it this way, we all like you a lot more than we like B&B. 🙂

17. It sucks just as much that Wesley isn’t even in this movie. I miss him and want to know what he’s been up to.
    Oh well. I hope you crashed the premier. Nobody would turn you away.

18. I don’t know what to say. A friend just gave me this link and said read it and I just can’t believe anyone could be so rude and cruel. You’re the reason I got hooked on Trek, which has lost a lot of its goodness, but you’re still awesome. And I’m boycotting Nemesis, I’ve got better things to do with my money. Good luck and follow your dreams and don’t listen to the corporate asses, what do they know about what we like anyway. Be happy and know that you’ve got a lot of people out there who will be angry for you and show Berman proof of what he’s lost by not having you there. Be well and find some happiness in this mess.

19. I’m not sure there are words to express how sorry and pissed I am. Sorry that the bastard is treating you the way he does, and pissed that he’s such a child for behaving that way. To this day you are one of my favorite characters on STNG, and I was really looking forward to seeing you in Nemesis. Well, I’m sure you know that there are lots of fans out there like me who wish you well, so here’s hoping things look up.

20. Reading that reminded me of that painful yet all-too-familiar feeling. That they would do that, and on the last TNG movie to boot… that’s just unfair and uncalled for. My biggest anticipation for this film was that your character would be back, then they cut your scenes. And now, this happens to you… Damn, I’m really sorry, Wil. I was always part of the crowd that liked Wesley, and when I found this site, I was wowed by how much cooler you are off camera. Best of luck, man.
    And for those who want to boycott the movie opening weekend: Here’s one better. Wait longer, until it comes out on video, then rent. The movie store gets your money, the studios don’t see any of what you pay to rent. (just what the rental places paid for the movies, so the more or less you rent doesn’t change that)

21. as many have said before me:
    we love you.

22. this really sucks. Even if it’s not personal, Rick needs to personally apologise. You were an intagral part of the cast. Bugger this “ship is the star of the show” crap

23. /me Hugs You.
    monkeys rule

24. Alright, to all you non-believers. I’ve had that site up just over an hour and already I have 26 names. Keep at it, let’s make this work.
    Also, *please* take the time to check out the main site (though it is much in progress) as there are two other important causes on the front page. If we can do it for Wil Wheaton, we can do it for workers in Colombia.
    Wil, you rock.
    Solidarity!
    -Clara

25. So Rick is a filthy, smarmy little liar. Big surprise. Smooth finish over cold design. His kind are all the same.
    Bitten once, I wouldn’t let him bite again.

26. Hey Wil,
    Don’t know if you read this far down the list, but I really felt the need to add my two cents.
    Only one thing came to mind as I read your entry this evening. Sympathy.
    After reading through *all* of the comments, I’ve thought of something else. Trek has been, for me, an example of how high humanity can become. I was always more drawn to the “morality” and “character-driven” stories than the purely action-filled pieces. Guess that’s why I preferred Insurrection to First Contact…. Anyway, my point is, instead of being all vengeful (which, I can understand, is a perfectly natural reaction), take the high ground. Face it, bitching Berman out is not going to accomplish anything. Think of what Trek originally stood for, when Gene was still alive. All of this crap is just an example of how much more important it is for all of us to work towards his (Gene’s) vision.
    “This too shall pass.” Until then, you have my sympathy.
    Em

27. If it’s any consolation whatsoever, I know exactly how you feel. I’ve been on the receiving end of a *very* similar call (though the non-invite was to a party, nothing near as swanky as a movie premiere) and–damn, it hurts.
    Have some mojo.
    My only reason for wanting to see this movie was the return of Wesley. Wil, when I heard you were cut, my entire family changed their plans. This just cements that change.

28. Hey Wil, the premiere is tonite! Make sure to be there… I can arrange someone to drive you here if you need it. Give me a call, I tried your numbers a few time, but they wouldn’t go through.
    -Rick.

29. I think a whole lotta monkeys and fellow travellers have said everything I want to say … I hope esp. for you that Rick forgot or some other such VIP Mgt. oversight crap ( they do that like all of us but somehow they make it nastier because of their smarmy follow ups ) and not intentionally dissing you.
    I especially liked the idea of not per se boycotting but undercotting the film- wait til post Christmas , maybe past the new year… see an indie, see LOTR, see Gangs or whatever and then, around 2nd weekend of Jan , see Nemesis and hope it’s slipslide into # 9 or 10 after 5 weeks or so is just enough of a message to H’weirdness PTB that maybe someone should wake up and smell the racticinno. They need to throttle back and revamp the whole “enterprise” of Star Trek, anyway.
    Hope you get an audition every week and are inundated with interesting roles , challenging roles and a few well paying ones wouldn’t hurt as well. May you have your Big Fat Greek Wedding sometime in the next year or so !!!Write a cool movie of your own.
    Feelgood Mojo, Audition successes mojo, and get some physical therapy for the tendenitus mojo…
    Kaplagh ! Don’t let the bastards get you down!
    Keep us posted on how all of it did turn out, I also appreciate the site and how open you are.
    Thanks, Kaplaghfinewhatever

30. You are happily married, and your careers are largely devoted to play. Gene Roddenberry vouched for you professionally, and LeVar Burton and Jonathan Frakes within the last year, and you came through for them — creatively, where it counts. This places you in the high-percentile minority of wealth in this country. People will try to break you. Don’t let them.

31. This pisses me of! It really do ! I am one of them who thought Wesely was cool. They are now once again offending me as well as Wil.

32. Welp,
    I think im skipping out on the movie now…if Berman doesnt give a shit about those in the trek family…you can tell he doesnt give a crap about the audience.

33. I was just reminded, 150+ comments later, by my mother that this type of shabby behavior is really only displaying the character of who’s doing it, and not you. Even though it probably still hurts.
    And secondly, I hope you’re going anyway. Seriously – who’s going to say “No Wil, you can’t come in.” No one. You deserve to be there just as much as the rest of them do, in my opinion.

34. Wil,
    I’ll join everyone else here in sympathizing with you and sending mojo your way; it’s either incredibly thoughtless or incredibly heartless (dependent upon whether your omission from the screening was intentional) of Berman to do that to you.
    As much as this meant to you, though, let me try to put it into perspective for you:
    Rick Berman is nothing without Star Trek. If this is truly the last TNG film (which would be a shame, rant to follow), I predict a dramatic downturn in his career. Consider:
    DS9 has never had a film released in theatres.
    Voyager has never had a film released in theatres.
    Enterprise is not likely to have a movie released in theatres, not anytime in the near future.
    TNG has had a tremendous following, largely due to the FOUR Trek films featuring its cast. If this is the last TNG film, it’ll take a miracle (read: the reincarnation of Gene Roddenberry) to bring about new interest in the franchise. The fan base, albeit one of the largest in the world, will stagnate and perhaps dwindle down to a core of die-hard Trekkies.
    He may not realize it, but without TNG, Berman is nothing.
    You are more than Wesley Crusher.
    You are more than Gordie Lachance, Joey Trotta, Dick Smith, and the co-host of Arena.
    You will continue to act, to write, to create, to inspire.
    Rick Berman took Gene Roddenberry’s work — a PREEXISTING CONCEPT — and molded it into his image. He has no completely original works to his credit. If DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise didn’t have the Star Trek tag, they would have gone the way of Babylon 5 much faster than they did/will.
    Attending that premiere would’ve been a great chance to look back and remenisce, but keep that fact firmly in mind: you’d be looking BACK. Not ahead. It’s certainly normal to feel slighted and even backstabbed, but don’t let yourself wallow in it; that would be doing yourself a huge disservice.
    People can be extremely callous. Rick Berman seems to be insensitivity made flesh.
    You know what, though?
    Fuck ’em. You’re better than that. Everyone else here knows that. Somewhere inside, Berman knows that, too. If nothing else, Wil, remember this:
    Rick Berman has yes-men.
    Wil Wheaton has a posse.

35. Wil,
    I just hope you will get a chance to get together with your TNG friends soon.
    Berman taking this opportunity away – that’s a crime.

36. First time I’m posting, Wil. Man, it does kind of suck, but you do get the karmic returns. You’re doing right, being graceful and stuff – and good things will come of it.
    Count up the good things that are going on in your life. The movie premiere might have been fun, but you have LAWN! And friends that’d help you put in the lawn. And friends that’d help you dig up a patch of that lawn to put a body under it if that became necessary. You know – real friends.
    Here’s another mojo-laden karmic thought at ya. Hope you get a call from Hanks and crew later this week.

37. Just remember, the people who REALLY count in your life, your wife, your kids, your family, your friends (some that helped you with your lawn this weekend!), and even us, your WWDN readers, we all see what a great guy you are, how talented you are, how deserving you are.
    Keep your chin up, and keep slugging it out.

38. Wake up and smell the coffee Wil! I have worked in the entertainment industry on many different jobs and have never met a producer, director, etc. person that wastn’t a sleazy worthless piece of shit deep down. The ones that have fooled everyone into thinking that they are nice guys are always the worst scum around. They will manipulate and twist you into giving them praise and credit that they don’t deserve, all the while stabbing you in the back to further their careers. When they say they are sorry, they aren’t. When they say they need you, they don’t. You have got to stop believing these scumbags.

39. Berman is an asshole.
    Every producer, director, etc., no matter how nice they might pretend to be, is an asshole.

40. well, that’s pretty lame of the ST:TNG establishment. pretty damned low class, if you ask me.
    however, all things considered, seeing the ‘nemesis’ posters… it looks pretty terrible anyway. kind of like they forgot to quit making ’em while they were at the high point. it might have been a decent script….. but… the final product looks a bit… sub-par.
    so, all things considered, maybe you’re better off not being associated with the flick? and if the reason you wanted to go was to see your friends from the cast, why not call some of them up to have a beer sometime?
    just a thought.
    cheer up. when i began reading, you had 187 posts from people who thing you’re tops. and those are only the people who are posting–there’s a whole lot more out there!

41. Hey,
    this is just one of those things in life, we don’t need to experience.
    But Will…
    make a list of 7 things, that are really important in your life. And if the Premiere isn’t on that list: It doesn’t matter!
    This won’t remove the bitterness of this mess, but the feelings of all the people here may give you a warm and gentle hug.
    As the Wil we know from this Website, you will find your way through this all.
    Keep your head up man!
    Greetings from Germany,
    Thomas

42. gentle hugs, good thoughts.
    be well head monkey – theres ypur gorgeous family, and the family of monkeys too, who love you…
    of course it hurt – its your high school reunion you didnt get an invite to and worse….
    but perspective to temper the hurt too sweet – so many monkeys rush to your defence!

43. Sweet wonderful lovable Wil.
    How many hugs before it’s all better? Just tell me when and where 🙂
    If they did not invite you on purpose, they are saying again, just as they said so many years ago, that they own you.
    Were I you, I would call up the person who drew up the invitations and find out what happened to yours. Then, if I find that there was no directive to get into contact with you, I would call up the person in charge and say, “what the fuck?”
    I would only find calm in knowing the truth.

44. I know this is so far down the post list it’s probably pointless to leave it, but here goes.
    To the underlings of Rick Berman who will no doubt read this thread when they catch wind of the shit-talking about you, I will NEVER again pay to see a movie that I know is putting money in your pocket. I was really juiced to see the new Trek, but anything with your name attached is permanently off my list. Maybe while you’re scrolling through this to see what Wil’s fans are saying about you, you’ll see the heart we put into this underdog hero, and wonder why yours doesn’t beat anymore.

45. Hi there,
    sorry to hear what happened about this, never mind, its his there i guess 🙁
    why does he do those things to you? Not a nice person!
    John from Ireland!

46. Wil, Gene Roddenberry wouldn’t have done that to you. Real Trekkies miss him.

47. That so sucks….but hey, you have all of us monkeys, unlike Berman. We’ve known for years he’s a low-down jerk. I know it hurts to be excluded, so many *hugs* from this way.

48. God Wil. I’m so sorry. I know that doesn’t even come *CLOSE* to making it better, but GOD…This just sucks.
    Damn them. Damn *HIM*.
    Grrr…
    *hugs*
    Athena

49. Dear Wil,
    I know how it feels to be left out. It truly sucks. Rick Berman is not even worth thinking about. Fuck him. When someone hurts me, I always say to myself that I am a better person. At least you are a caring person. I guess it is something he lacks.
    Just remember you always have your family. By the way, you should attend the premiere and show him that you are a better person than he will ever be.
    Deejay

50. Being number 200 on this list, you

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