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  1. Let’s all just hope the American public figures out what a douche Cheeto Hitler really is, and kicks him out in 2021.

    1. Why must we wait that long? MR Cheeto Prez Will do something so stupid (because he is a loser), and it will be an impeachable offense.

      JUST WATCH HIM AND HIS TEAM VERY CLOSELY.

      ····· Brett

        1. IKR? He is the worst possible example of a Cheeto, and yet… that is the easiest nickname to give him, because, well… it’s shorter than Orange Hitler, I guess?

    3. My boyfriend and I were actually talking about this. We agreed the optimal outcome would be an impeachment in 2018. The trouble with him being ousted immediately is that gives Pence four years in power. Pence is a tricky bet. He’s more inclined to play by the rules than Donald, but his policies are every bit as terrible to women, minorities and the poor, plus he’s a conversion therapy endorsing mega-homophobe. He’s also more smooth and manipulative. The biggest weakness of Donald’s following is that they follow Donald, who embarrasses them to the majority of the country every time he opens his mouth. I don’t want to know what would happen if you gave that following to someone who knows how to polish a turd.

      But give Donald a year to look bad and force Pence to stand up for him every time, then disrupt his second year with a massive impeachment DURING the midterms (giving Democrats an easy rallying cry as they campaign), and then give Pence just two years in which to clean up the mess and put together a bid for reelection, riding a wave of all that bad press and a hostile Congress…. yeah, that would not go well for him. Especially if we get our state legislatures to sign the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, so he doesn’t have the Electoral College to hide behind anymore.

      It’s the only scenario I imagine that would maximize damage done to them while minimizing the damage they can do to the rest of us.

      1. Or… we hope America’s next John Wilkes Booth gets his act together and catches them both on a night when they’re at the theatre together. I know this guy has to be out there and if by chance he’s reading this, sooner would be better than later.

        1. Suggesting assassination is way out of bounds, IMO. WAY out of bounds. I don’t care who the president is or what that person does. The same body of laws that allowed Trump to be elected president also provide for ways for him to be legally removed from office if called for. Assassination is never an appropriate option.

          3. I’ll add that he didn’t get there legally in the first place. They stopped following the “rules”. These are not good men that rose to power by legitimate means. So again, totally disagree with you. Way out of bounds? I don’t think so. Hope you can hear me all the way up there on your high horse.

  3. Hope people will come to their senses and votes democratically in 2 years to get back control and limit the harm……

    1. I hope that is still an option in 2 years, I fear a significant amount of damage could be done in 2 years, catastrophic damage.

  7. Believe me, I feel you. We just spent 2,292 days in a never-ending Socialist/Marxist, Americas-hating nightmare that we thought would never end. But it did.

    It’s MORNING in America again. Today is the beginning of the reconstruction of our great country! Smile, Wil! Nothing but light ahead, kind sir. 🙂

      1. I sure do, Wil.

        obama set the tone of his presidency my making his 1st act a speech in Egypt in which he, for all intents and purposes announced to the world that America’s enemies had a friend in the White House. His wife also made it a point to show her distaste for this country at every opportunity and just the other day, in his farewell speech, he made it a point of saying that she was given a role tha ‘she didn’t ask for’. She never wanted to be FLOTUS. She hated what being FLOTUS entailed and she resented the history of all of the graceful and classy women that came before her.

        Stating today, grace and class and love of country are being restored to the White House.

          1. oh shit… down the worm hole we go…… Logic, integrity, intelligence, compassion, empathy and love exit left.

        2. You must be trolling. I don’t see a glimmer of class, dignity or integrity in any member of the the family that’s moving into the White House.

      2. When did your blog become a political vomit session? if you think Obama stood for you or his motivation was improve your lot in life, You obviously have never met him. And if you think Hillary ever has your back.. You might want to go to work for her. As someone who is apolitical.. Meaning I vote for the best person regardless of party, and someone who has been “in the room” when decisions were made from the White House. Obama did nothing the last four years to deface his ability to sell himself later. Hillary was all about Hillary.. Ted Cruz is the anti Christ. I understand you feel on the outside looking in. I am not defending the actions of the Donald, But I am letting him be President. I wouldn’t want my wife or Sister to be in the same room with either Donald or Clinton. in my own opinion, We, The US, Dodged a bullet by not electing Hillary.. (Nobody likes a former boss, but I’ll refrain from name calling) My advice is this. Become politically active. I am got so sick of political activism, I left the state department and came back to Texas. To help Vets (VA). Resist the urge to demonstrate (Violently) and learn to negotiate. Unclinch your fist, and open it up to either pick up a shovel or shake the hand of the person you are negotiating. Tomorrow is the same day that today is unless a change is made. You can’t make them make a change except through an election, You can entice them to make a change by giving them something they think they will need in the future. Otherwise the hate and anger speech is laughable. Its like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum.. Y’all are funny… Care to play a game?

    2. Alberto, I pray for light for our good country. I pray for the continuation of a society that is trying to improve not just the lives of each individual, but of all those in our neighborhoods, those outside of our town, outside of our state, all those who have pledged citizenship or been lucky enough to be born with it. I pray for goodwill and acceptance of differences; I pray for those with experience and expertise to guide those with passion and idealism.

      On this inauguration day, and on all inauguration days, the United States of America are not starting over or reconstructing. We are continuing. We strive to make positive changes that benefit as many people as possible, changes that serve to strengthen the WHOLE of our country, even though there will often be dissent, debate, or disagreements. I pray that we don’t cause damage to the physical world around us, or to the relationships that have been built with the other countries in our globally-interconnected community.

      There will always be light. Wil, there will always be light. You carry it, I carry it, everyone marching tomorrow is carrying it, and each individual light makes a difference, whether I’m sitting at home in the dark with the TV off or in the middle of a million other people with their lights. We can do this, Wil, and when we have to huddle in our blankets for a while, that’s okay, we’re allowed to do that, and we can let others handle that moment in time for us.

      Hugs all around, from an overly-emotional supporter of your life and how you’re living it.

    3. Can’t tell if this is heartfelt or sarcasm. Seems sincere but could be next level facetious.

  9. Where was all this resistance when you had a chance to make a difference ?
    It kind of makes me wonder how many of you lot actually did vote for your current president.
    All we’re hearing is a lot of whining and beeps using this as an excuse to cause riots …
    Didn’t you listen to his acceptance speech today ?
    Or where you lot too obsessed feeling smug to listen to what he said ?

  10. All I could think about was our friend Obi-Wan all day: “I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.”

  12. Cheetos…….Mmmm maybe thats why his hair looks like that. He eats a few then scratches his head then goes back to foraging.

  14. I’m sorry you’re such a hateful person Wil… I actually thought at one time you were above that.

      1. Wil, I do have to second arnegrim. You do spew a lot of hate. But I keep coming back to your blog because you intrigue me. You and I share a lot of common interests. Board games, retro gaming, tinkering with Raspberry Pi, etc. But your political polarization has you so blinded in that regard.

        How closely did you watch the coverage of the inauguration and the events of the day? Did you notice how well President Donald Trump, Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and all the rest of them got along? Did you see them all joking and laughing together and patting each other on the back? Did you see at the luncheon how President Donald Trump toasted Bill and Hillary Clinton, thanked them for coming and telling them how much he really admires what they have done and lead an applause of them?

        Politics is a lot of show. Everyone in politics has an agenda and they fight hard for their agenda. But they are also real people and respect each other as human beings. Everyone has different opinions and want to fight for what they think is important. But everyone also has all the same needs and are held by the same human condition.

        But you express in your blog, as do a lot of other people, an unhealthy fixation on the idea that someone who doesn’t agree with you politically is inherently evil. It causes you to lose grip on reality and causes yourself an unnecessary degree of suffering.

        You violate Wheaton’s Law, “Don’t be a dick” regularly on this blog without even realizing it because in your own mind, you are speaking the truth. You don’t realize how twisted your sense of reality is.

        2. And you’ve not noticed how hateful and divisive Trump is then, Let It Be? Somehow missed his making fun of a disabled reporter, and when he suggested an American-born judge (Curiel) could not be fair because he was of Latin descent?

          Trump’s cabinet represents vulture capitalist interests. Bannon is a racist. Pence is a homophobe. And you have the unmitigated gall to suggest Wil is being unkind? You are a fool.

          2. I didn’t realize that the proper response to a hateful person was to be hateful yourself?

            Wil’s motto is ‘Don’t be a dick’… Perhaps it should be ‘Don’t be a dick unless they are too’?

      1. I’m assuming (hoping?) that this is addressed to letitbe? Because, seriously, Wil ABSOLUTELY adheres to his “Don’t Be a Dick” policy, even in his responses to people who don’t agree with him, On His Own Blog (“Ok”).

        I am not a supporter of any politician. I chose not to vote, because I knew what little impact my vote would have (I live in California). I am constantly befuddled by the Cheeto supporters who believe that my retweets indicate I’m a whining loser/snowflake, when in fact I just Do Not Trust the man who has TAKEN the highest office in our particular land. I wish I could understand his supporters. I do. They are certainly zealous, if also blind!

    4. There seems to be confusion. The good Sir Wheaton is above ignoring belligerence and hate. He is above ignoring racism, sexism and a platform of outright misguided anger. Ignoring this, pretending nothing is wrong, that would be the smallest, lowest thing Wil or anyone else can do. He’s found something positive to look toward, for those of us above the path of chosen ignorance.

  15. Wil,

    Did you account for leap seconds and days? This is important stuff according to every client of mine who lost their sh*t on new years thinking all their systems were doomed due to the leap second. DOOMED I tell you!!!

    Tick

  16. The presidency was stolen. Whether gerrymandering, voter suppression, the media, the FBI (Comey), giving Bernie the shaft, fake news, and Russia.
    Democrats got more votes and republicans got more seats because they cheat and gerrymander and the Koch brothers funnel money into any Republican tea party candidate they can find. None of this is made up.
    It fucking sucks.
    Selfish people vote for Trump. Me people. Democratic voters choose what is better for all, because it’s right.
    This sucks.

  19. An old man walked up to the Marine guard in front of the White House.
    “I’d like to see President Obama, Sergeant.”
    “I’m sorry, sir,” the Marine replied. “Mr. Obama isn’t President anymore.”
    Nodding, the old man walked off.
    The next day, the old man returned. “I’d like to see President Obama.”
    “Sir, I’m sorry, but Mr. Obama isn’t President anymore.”
    The day after that, the old man returned. Seeing him walk up, the Sergeant sighed.
    “I’d like to see -.”
    “Sir,” the Marine interrupted. “Mr. Obama isn’t President anymore. He’s not here, and he’s not coming back.”
    The old man smiled. “I know. I just like hearing it.”
    The Marine nodded. “I’ll see you tomorrow, sir.”

  20. You are loved and valued, Wil. Don’t let the trolls get you down. Great link! Thanks! I grieve tonight for the America we have lost. May you and yours walk in safety and love always.

    1. You know why the trolls are here? Because Wil and Scalzi and such folk are getting to them, making them face their own wretched beliefs and behaviors. It’s quite amusing, actually!

  21. Wil, I love that you are passionate about what you believe and not hesitant to express it on your blog (some of your critics forget that this is YOUR blog after all!). You are lovely and you care about this country and the people in it and I hope you continue along this path. Tonight I watched about 2000 people march past my job, peacefully protesting. It was good to see while we still have the right to do it.

    I’m going to watch that counter, Wil, and keep my eyes open.

  22. Look boys and girls, I do not like Trump and I did not vote for him. You know who else I didn’t vote for? “We came, we saw, he died” Clinton. I am very skeptical of Trump’s ability to keep his promises to working people. I do not care for his style and his overly sized ego, but many of you are talking like Hillary Clinton would be a good thing. I am not sure what planet you people live on, but I suppose it is one you don’t mind seeing burned to the ground. Hillary Clinton is a war monger and a tool of corporate America. At the very least Trump might not continue the arming of terrorists in Syria Hillary would. Are you people so self-centered that you can’t take a moment to care for the people who Clinton has slaughtered and would slaughter in the future? This is only one issue mind you. Her relationship with theocratic Saudi Arabia is another biggie. The woman is a neo-con warhawk par excellence.

    If you any of you are unaware of what has been done to the people of Syria in recent years (actions supported by Hillary Clinton) then that is ok, but please inform yourselves. I recommend the work of Vanessa Beeley (google her, and watch her interviews). For the past foreign policy misadventures (read crimes) of Hillary Clinton I recommend the work of Diana Johnstone, her counter-punch columns, and her book Queen of Chaos.

    If you guys wanna hate on Trump, fine, I won’t defend him, but for the love all that is good in this world do not defend Hillary Clinton. She is an evil woman with blood on her hands.

    2. Please, there is no comparison between Komrade Trump the whizanator in chief and Hillary. I think people voiced their opinion on the Clintons in 2008. And much to the Dems chagrin it bit them in the ass in 2016. But I’m so sick of this false equivalency between all politicians are the same at least he isn’t a Clinton bullshit.
      We are about to witness a plutocrat in office the likes of which no one has seen before. Berlusconi will end up looking like an amateur compared to the damage this puppet Russian stooge will be. 25 million jobs? This guy has no effing clue what the fuck he’s doing and you want us to believe Clinton would be worse? Please.

      Russia owns Syria now, much like they own Trump. I’m sure your preferred candidate will be a boon for middle eastern peace… How many Syrian refugees do you think the orangutan in chief will allow into the US?

      1. @coraxery

        You should have asked Haim Saban or George Soros for a check during the election. Why shill for free when you can get paid?

        The fact is that the oligarichal class overwhelmingly favored Clinton, who is herself a plutocrat. She raised 1.2 billion dollars, with 217 million coming from super PACs. Trump raised 560 million with only 82 million coming from super PACs. Clinton’s individual donors are a veritable who’s who of wall street firms, multinational corporations, and international financial criminals like the two men I mentioned above.

        This is basic stuff, and again, I am not a Trump supporter, but do not tell me Clinton is some kind of people’s candidate.

        What bothers me far more are your comments on Syria and Russia. I have always supported liberal democracy but when I read things like you wrote above I become despondent, because honestly, people like you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Democracy demands a personal responsibility to be informed and you have willfully neglected it to the point of being a danger to the lives of others. I gave you two very good (read left-wing) sources that can explain to you Clinton’s true foreign policy record and the war crimes being committed against the people of Syria. It makes me sick that you sit in comfort and parrot war propaganda that has left the people of Syria , particularly those in East Aleppo, living in 4 years of hell and death. All supported by the US State Department under Clinton. You then have the nerve to talk about Syrian refugees?? There shouldn’t need to be any! If Trump pulls the plug on the regime change operation (the one thing I am most hopeful for) then they can go back to their home in peace.

        Also, are you seriously implying Hillary Clinton would be good for peace in the Middle East? Is that a fucking joke? Like she was for Iraq, Libya, or Yemen? Maybe like she was for the former Yugoslavia?

        Finally, Russia is acting under international law in Syria to clean up the mess started by the US, France, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. They were invited to Syria. They do not “own” the country. What the hell happened to the left where now we are engaging in neo-McCarthyite red scare paranoid bullshit. The Democratic lost the moral victory by running that evil woman. It is our fault for not forcing the party to chose a better candidate.

        But yeah, Trump is bad so who cares how many innocent people have slaughtered by Hillary or how much Goldman Sachs money has been stuffed into her coffers. You have no principles, shill.

        1. There’s a lot of over-the-top hyperbole here. I like your reply. All familiar points, but I think most people aren’t aware of them.

          Soros pays for many anti-Trump rallies and many, many groups. Look for professionally made signs to identify astroturfing.

          The candidate who spent less won the election. Good news for a Republic I would think.

          Syria invited Russia to help in a civil war. The US has uninvited troops there illegally. How would we respond if another country tried that here? Canada to help the branch davidians during Waco?

          It doesn’t matter whether Trump is a failure or success. Every action will be painted in the most negative way by a large group of people.

          Now is an excellent time to see who is informed and makes decisions based upon facts and principles and who reports accurately and researches a story. This will all calm down and it’ll be harder to recognized.

      1. @Joshua

        “This is the first comment on this post to mention Clinton.”

        Hmmm, I wonder why? Maybe because there is nothing good anyone can say about her.

        Look man, the election was a binary choice. If people are freaking out and saying the outcome of the election is the worst thing ever (TM), then the implication is obviously that Hillary should have won. It would be different if people were saying, we really screwed up nominating Hillary, but they aren’t, instead they are taking a page out of ol’ Joe’s book and blaming Russia. I guess they are sad they didn’t get to elect their favorite war criminal/Wall Street crony.

  23. I’ve never seen such biased over-reaction in my life. First of all, you people have let the news media use you as their tools. They spent over a year telling you over and over again what a misogynistic, racist, bigoted, fascist Nazi, and rapist Trump is, and how Clinton was going to be your squeaky-clean savior, and how she was entitled to win the Presidency on her high ethics and morals alone. You cannot even fathom that Trump won because of a populist movement in this country that has gotten sick and tired to no end with the crony, corrupt Washington DC political establishment, which includes Clinton. You people seem to be blind to Clinton’s totally corrupt character and psychopathic personality. You call Trump a racist, misogynist, and bigot, while Clinton routinely refers to Latinos and African Americans as Taco and Tar Balls, as seen in her leaked emails. It was Hillary Clinton who spent 2 years vilifying and publicly destroying the characters of the women her husband for years used his power to abuse. You call Trump a fascist when it’s actually Clinton who is in bed with multi-national corporations, the corrupt banks, Wall Street, and the govts of truly awful countries like Saudi Arabia. You claim Trump will get us in a war when it was Clinton’s State Dept that destroyed the countries of Libya and Syria who did absolutely nothing to us. Thousands of innocent people have been killed, millions displaced, and the blood is on her hands.. You call Trump corrupt when it was Clinton who was using the Libyan US Consulate to illegally smuggle thousands of black market weapons to terrorist groups, including ISIS. It’s Clinton who has been using a foundation to take millions upon millions in pay to play money, and who used her position as State Dept head to give favors to those who donated to that foundation. And this whole thing about the Russians being involved – a 5-year old can see that that is complete hogwash that has been cooked up by DNC political operatives who want to see Trump fail at all costs. The only people who this behavior is going to cost is all of you and all the rest of us.

    I am not a Trump supporter and I did not vote for Trump. But this behavior and the kind of hateful venom being spat out by Clinton supporters needs to be tempered by those of us still retaining a shred of sanity. Trump’s speech today was the first time since JFK’s speech right before he was murdered where an elected leader of this country actually stood up and spoke truth to power. You people should be inspired by that, and you should hope he can actually clean out the cesspool DC has become, instead of doing everything you can to see that he fails. You cannot even give him credit for that. He hasn’t done a single thing yet and you’re already planning his impeachment. It’s disgusting, and it’s the antithesis of the kind of political correctness that your side of the aisle seems to espouse.

    And lastly, all this hand-wringing and hair pulling about Trump being an illegitimate President. He won fair and square. No, he didn’t win the popular vote. That’s because the Democratic voting demographic is unfairly skewed toward the largest urban centers where the most govt dependents reside. I’m talking about LA and NY City. The rest of us do not want our voices drowned out by two cities. That’s why the electoral college was created and why it still works today no matter how sour your grapes are. Honestly, the behavior I have seen from some people over the last week is embarrassing and shameful. It just goes to show how dumbed down our education system has become that people do not have even the most basic critical thinking skills, and instead react like children throwing a tantrum at everything they see in the media, social and otherwise. I guess that’s what happens when the only “news” you read and listen to is that which will reinforce your skewed, biased worldview. This is how Trump goes from being a not so nice guy a year ago to the spawn of Satan he is accused of being today.

    1. Want references? : whatreallyhapened.com Whether it be the Clintons, or all the others before and after, you’ll find it there!

    2. Glenn R,
      Very well put. I am no word smith, so thanks for politely telling folks to calm the F down and do a little thinking for themselves.

      I am embarrassed for democrats and other haters that think, since their candidate did not win, it is OK to destroy public and private property until they get their way. The system worked as it was designed. Like it or not, Trump is our president.

      You do not have to like the person that sits in the chair, but you damn sure should respect the office.

  24. The worst thing is, that Trump is a media pro. He will tell the people, who voted him all his achievements again and again….and they will believe him. It doesn’t matter that the situation of the people is not going to be better. He will keep telling everyone, that he made America great again and that there are more jobs, etc etc. His people will believe him, even if they are not personally doing better. At least, they are glad, that Trump is bullying the Chinese, the Mexicans, illegal immigrants. Because lots of his voters think, that exactly they are to blame.

    This is a very very dangerous situation.

  27. This is the type of childish, meaningless nonsense that divides our country.

    Worst, this is from an adult.

  29. Comments directed to alberto lopez, jaFO, Let It Be, I’m the other guy, Billy Pilgrim, Chad armintrout, Glenn R, Dux, Something Something…… sorry if I missed anyone, but I think you’ll know if it applies to you. Although that may be giving you too much credit. It has always amazed me when people will follow blogs and relish the opportunity to disagree and insult the author with their comments. This is Wil’s space, to voice his opinions, feelings, experiences and information. It’s awesome that his sensitivity and insight is, for the most part, applauded and appreciated. I have found that most of Wil’s readers have like minds and sentiments, and if they don’t, logic would dictate that they would no longer visit this site. So why are you here? What amazes me is the possibility that any of you think you might sway anyone’s beliefs, who agree with Wil, with your snarky comments. Do you comment just to rejoice in your own voice or do you really believe we might sip your kool-aid merely because you offered?

    You take advantage of Wil’s grace and goodness because he opens his site to all who have something to say. But as a guest here, not only do I think you’re being rude, you’re committing the cardinal rule. You’re dicks.

    2. If he didn’t want people to comment negatively, aka non-sheeple such as yourself and 99% of everyone else on this blog, and only wanted “yes men/women” on his blog”, then he should make it private and by subscription only. Then, Mr. Wheaton would never have to worry about negativity gracing his blog nor hurt feelings nor non-hardcore liberal viewpoints as well. His ego will then forever be soothed by those with the exact same viewpoints (hateful and otherwise) as everyone else’s.

      So, please, go into mourning for the next 8 years (whoops, should that read 4? Nah), mope around like a whiny little toddler and keep thinking about the fact because Mr. Wheaton, as a bonafide snowflake, will always be welcomed in Hollywood, because you always toe the line.

      Comparing Trump to Hitler is a bit far-fetched when Hollywood is doing the exact same thing to people who don’t to the line with their viewpoint.

      1. Believe it or not, it’s actually possible to disagree respectfully. Making the effort to write well chosen words and using the correct tone is always better received, no matter the subject. Ultimately, though, there seems to be two types engaged in a debate. The one who listens merely to reply and the one who listens to learn. The first is seldom interested in anything others might think – they only want to hear their own voice. Some will go to any lengths to be right instead of kind. My comments were not about Trump, the election or following Wil. They were about good manners.

      2. Just because comments are open doesn’t mean you have to comment and it doesn’t mean you have to be rude or spiteful. No one’s putting a gun to your head and making you comment, that’s your choice, and what you say and how you say it is on you, not Wil, not anyone else. If you want to prove that you’re not a whiny toddler who thinks they’re a special snowflake, then act like an adult.

    3. @alicen1derland

      I have a simple rule. Treat people with respect until they prove undeserving of it. You lumped me in with these other names and I am not going to bother to go through and read all of their comments. However, lumping us all in the same box for having a dissenting opinion is inappropriate. I can not speak for them and I likely have serious disagreements with them as well.

      Your implication is that I am being rude or insulting yet you insult me when you say things like “Although that may be giving you too much credit.” Or when you say, “that any of you think you might sway anyone’s beliefs, who agree with Wil, with your snarky comments. Do you comment just to rejoice in your own voice or do you really believe we might sip your kool-aid merely because you offered?” And of course, “you’re dicks.”

      I do not read Wil’s work because of his political views, which are unimpressive to me (and again I AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER). I like to read about his self improvement chronicles, his reminisiouns on Next Generation, dog-posting, recipes, and RPGs. I have no interest in being disrespectful to Wil and appreciate that he allows people to comment. Disagreeing with someone is not being rude and debate is essential to have a democracy. Being unwilling to hear another viewpoint, especially one based entirely in Truth, is very dangerous to society as a whole.

      Politics is not a personal opinion that you need to air out like the kind of thing you might right in a diary. Political views have a real effect on the world and if you are operating in ignorance you will do harm without knowing it. I will admit that I was harsh in my above reply to @coraxery but I will not apologize because it is not about me or her (him?), but in the case of my above comments, it is about the people of Syria. I was only as harsh as I needed to be. I provided information in my original comment that was completely ignored in the subsequent response. It is not a crime to be ignorant but if you deliberately choose ignorance to avoid confronting an inconvenient truth I will not treat you with kid gloves. The slaughter in Syria has been taking place because many people on the left refuse to hold Obama or Hillary accountable for anything. The war propaganda must be denounced and we have a duty to do it.

      To answer your question, no I do not comment to enjoy my own voice I comment because I am concerned about the Truth and don’t like to see it shoved aside for political expediency.

      If you choose to respond to me please address my specific points regarding the US supported proxy war in Syria.

  30. I am a Democrat. I voted for Hillary Clinton. But I find the vast majority of this thread to be at best childish and at worst irresponsible and potentially dangerous. Telling people who nicely disagree to leave? Insulting people who don’t hold your political viewpoints? Personally attacking people who dare to respond to sarcasm with sarcasm? And worst of all… wishing for assassination of a sitting president and vice president?!?!?

    Disgusting.

    I come here to talk about board games & sci-fi & dogs & Linux & bread-making & coffee roasting. I started coming here (well, to the predecessor of the predecessor of here) because I find it inspiring that Wil didn’t give up when he bailed out of Trek and found himself shooting a horrible movie that he regretted becoming involved with and wondering how he’d cratered such a promising career before it had even really gotten off the ground. Most child actors in that situation grab for a bottle or a heroin needle and crawl inside because Hollywood is a tough way to pay the bills. But our boy Wil got up and dusted himself off and got back in the game. That, and how he has raised his sons and how he respects and treats his wife is what makes him a neat person in my eyes. I come here because I find Wil’s determination to succeed inspiring, and I come here for fellowship with open minded people who enjoy the geeky side of life. I do not come here to listen to shrewish bitter people callously banter about whether it would be better if someone were to assassinate Trump and have Pence lead the country, or better to assassinate them both. That’s F*d up on so many levels it boggles the mind. It is positively vomitous and if you endorse or enjoy that type of vitriol then you are an abjectly horrible and immoral person no matter how you vote.

    1. @Bob

      We are on the same page my man (well with exception of voting for Hillary Clinton). I had not read your comment before I posted a reply to @alicen1derland but it is remarkably similar, perhaps you might enjoy it.

      Since you seem like an open minded guy you might want to read my other above comments that contributed to the minor controversy we appear to be involved in.

        1. Hey Alice, not your fault you didn’t see it. It only recently went up. I think it sat in moderation for awhile because of its length.

  31. 500.000 in Washington and over 100.000 in LA and NY? That’s a statement. Be proud of it!

  32. Thanks for this, Wil. Having a counter actually helps. Maybe we can get through this, one week, one day, one minute, one second at a time.

    I’m worried that we won’t last that long (see Germany in 1933-1934 – and no, the analogy isn’t that far off, as we all thought this couldn’t happen every step of the way and what he’s doing to the press [for starters] is terrifying), but I will fight him every day, as much as I can, for as long as I can. I marched yesterday. It was a small thing, but it was something.

    And now, I’m taking advice from a simple sign I saw there: Keep calm and call Congress.

    Also, way to not feed the trolls. OK works. I’ve also taken to randomly quoting movies at them when I don’t ignore them. That works, too.

    Keep your chin up and your claws out, Wil. Rebel. Resist.

    Or as Poe Dameron so succinctly put it: Go straight at ’em. Don’t let these thugs scare you!

    1. We’re not far off from the beginning of Nazi Germany in your opinion? Where is the government closing down newspapers, radio stations, TV, etc.? Where are the people being hauled off to death camps? Where is the government (not private citizens) in armed gangs destroying property and beating people? Nazi Germany was awful, and even if Trump makes you feel uncomfortable, you lessen the horror of Nazism when you say now is not far off from then. You think in a Nazi America you’d even have the freedom to post something like that? Get with it.

  33. Watching and reading this thread from the other side of the pond. I am shocked how the US is split. I thought it was meant to be United States. I wish you all the best.

  34. The Borg learned it the hard way and Trump will, too: resistance is NOT futile but essential when confronting hatred, bigotry, misogyny—anything that threatens humanity. We will not “get over it” or “give him a chance”—the man stands for everything that I am against, how can I do anything less than resist, rebel, confront? As MLK once said, ” Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” We refuse to be silent and we will not be silenced.

  35. Hi Wil,

    I’m just curious about something. It seems like you’ve granted access to anyone with an opinion (so that includes everybody breathing) to post on this. I thought you liked weeding out, as you so entertainingly put it, “the stupid sphere”. I’m a big believer in free speech and there are ample places on the internets to practice it. It just seems like this post has it’s fair share of opinions from both sides of the table whether they are respectful or not. Are you allowing more of a conversation in this instance?

  38. I’m curious if you have taken a step back and taken a good look at what is really happening in politics.

    The “Russian Interference” evidence is very weak. The timeline doesn’t work. The evidence that their was coordination with the Trump Campaign is falling flat, recent leaks show that even our own intelligence agencies can make their hacks look like they came from Russia, China, or whomever they want. From the start of this I would have thought someone as tech savy as you would know the evidence stated that “prove” the Russian’s hacked the DNC was extremely weak.

    And now we know that the Obama Administration did spy on the Trump Campaign per admission by Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice.

    Everyone in politics is dirty. Doesn’t matter what party they affiliate with. You are just fooling yourself if you think one party is just and the other isn’t. You aren’t thinking clearly if you think righteous people go to one party and evil people go to the other. If it were that simple, there wouldn’t be a “Cheeto Hitler President”, Unless of a very large portion of the voters were evil, in which case, you should flee.

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