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Yeah, that’s about how a lot of us are feeling, right now.
Stay Strong Wil. We’re there for you. #HoomanBuddySystem.
Yup…
Is that a misfits shirt?
Yep.
Very cool man. Sorry you are down but things will get better. Music always helos me when im down. I recommend putting on some old misfits and playing it loud.
Having such a day myself :/
<3
internet hugs Dude, we’ll get through this somehow. Somehow.
It will all be ok.
Wil, I sympathize completely. My six year old was in tears Tuesday night asking if we would have to move. I encourage you to read Aaron Sorkins letter to his daughter. And then know that we support you.
Cheer up with a game of Catan?
Breathe. Gather yourself and regroup. As a nation we must stand together and show each other the hateful minority will not rule without a fight.
Umm….who do you consider “the hateful minority”? While I agree with you that we should stand together and not let the bigots rule us, I’m not sure that your definition of “the hateful minority” and mine are the same. My definition of “the hateful minority” are those bigots who make life difficult (if not impossible) for those whom they hate. It doesn’t matter what color their skin is, what political party they belong to, what religion they believe in (if any), etc. etc. etc. Hate is hate….period. The trouble comes when people put the same label for those bigots on people who DON’T believe the same way as they do.
That is why I’m asking for clarification. Who do you consider to be “the hateful minority”? Let’s see if we can come to an agreement on who is REALLY the bigot, so WE CAN stand TOGETHER against them (the bigots).
Pretty much. I took Wednesday of because I was pretty sure I was so angry I was going to punch someone in the face, and that isn’t a solution.
Same. I took yesterday off, too, because after the anger came the depression.
We are all here for you and for each other, it is going to work out in the end. We will prevail.
I’m shocked – to say the least – and I can’t even imagine what I would do, feel, think if I lived in America.
So, power hug and lots of love to you.
<3
I have been in shock and fear.
I understand your candidate lost. Do you need counseling? Would you feel better if we got you a participation trophy, or maybe we should leave you to retreat to your safe place? The simple fact is that Americans move on. They don’t lay down and quit or cry and claim to move to other countries. They don’t pull people from their cars and abuse them. They stand up, dust themselves off and offer up a non-criminal,trustworthy candidate that their daughters could emulate. I want a woman president, just not that one. I want a woman my daughter can look up to, not someone who disregards the law and uses the offices she possesses for personal gain. Someone who has never held a non-governmental job, but is a millionaire. Someone who is chosen not because of her sex, but her qualifications. Blame the rest of America for not voting, blame the right, but most of all blame yourselves for putting the most unlikable and criminal candidate in for the highest office in the land.
BTW, huge fan!
Dear RM:
You’re a real chode, you know that?
Hey pot, it’s the kettle, I’m black too.
If you want to be taken seriously, which you do not, starting a conversation by downplaying mental health is probably a bad way to go. I’m glad you started with that though, I knew that the rest could be reliably ignored.
Honestly dude,
I look at your speech (and let’s be clear, it’s a speech not any attempt at dialogue, which is just cruel to do when people are hurting) and I could stipulate to the worst interpretation of these events and the people in them (as you seem to be doing) and yet still I have one simple retort:
Would hate crimes have skyrocketed in this country over the last 48 hours had ANYONE ELSE WON?
Bernie?
Johnson?
Stein?
Rubio?
Christie?
Cruz?
If you honestly think that the same things would be happening, well okay. I don’t agree. And as a white cis guy whose job is essentially bulletproof, I have the luxury of thinking on it with some detachment. Well over half the country isn’t so lucky. And if history is any judge, this situation is going to get a lot worse. That’d be enough for me to be worried, bummed out, whatever.
I tell you what though, in the shoes of someone happy with Trump's election (which I'm not), I'd still have the grace not to pile on as you have.
The president has urged people to pull together and root for the success of the president elect, because that is the best thing for the country. The president elect has pledged to be the president of all Americans, the stock market is up and transition meetings are underway. The process worked and sometimes we don’t get what we want. Period.
The biggest problem we’ve faced since the election is the violent, property destroying, mob of people I’m ashamed to call fellow Democrats. Words are not necessary right now, Riots are not necessary right now. What’s necessary is for us to calm down, smoke a (now legal) joint and get our shit together and not say or do a single good god dammed thing until we can act like adults. Take Wil’s lead on this. Time to chill and think it through. This whining and lashing out and running or mouths is straight up childish. You want to do something good for the country? Go hug a Republican. It’ll blow their minds and it will help de-escalate things so we can get back to being Americans. 45 presidents so far, and it’s nasty every time. You think this is the first weird or bad one? Not even close. This one was weird, but Reagan’s first and Bush Jr’s second were worse, and this isn’t even in the same league as the Nixon impeachment. It always feels like this to the people whose candidate lost.
There is work to do. Some of that work will be to support causes Republicans don’t support. Some will be along side of Republicans. And none of it should be feckless naval gazing, yelling, demeaning, or hitting each other.
His transition team, and literally every single thing he said and did not just during the campaign but his entire 70 years on this planet make it impossible to believe him.
I’ll grant you that it certainly seems like that. And yet, you have to. Well, at least to some degree, and so do I and everyone else who is left of center. It sucks… but there it is.
My barber is a staunch Republican who didn’t like Trump but voted for him because he felt Pence would do most of the governing and that Trump would have certain abilities to see strategies that insiders might not. And he may have a point. I mean Trump sure outplayed us. It smarts to say it, but he did. We have to own that. I’m embarrassed to say that I almost cancelled my haircut. Upon further reflection – I had to ask myself why. Was it that I didn’t want to see a Republican profit from my business? Was it that I found his beliefs so repugnant that I couldn’t be around him even though he rarely if ever talks about politics and only in the broadest possible terms? That he isn’t a nice guy or that I don’t like him? Or was it that I was just incredibly embarrassed that I discounted his beliefs and reasoning and his candidate without a second thought and underestimated his opinion so thoroughly that I didn’t want to face him? Fact of the matter is I had crappy barbers till I found him years back. He is polite, he is consistent, he remembers me, he cuts hair like an ace, and he’s never been preachy or personal on any topic. He is an amazing barber, a good father, a good husband, a good conversationalist, and a nice guy. We’ve been friends for years despite radically different underlying political belief systems, and here I am considering throwing that out the window for an election? After thinking about it for the better part of a day I was so embarrassed. But I think that is somewhat analogous to what we’re feeling right now… Fear+Anger+Embarrassment. We need some introspection – a LOT of introspection. Why did this happen? That is the question we need to answer. It would be so easy to say: “sexism / racism / last gasp of the white man” blah blah blah. That is the narrative we hear, but it is inaccurate and intellectually lazy. It is easier to demonize people with whom we disagree because our comedians and other assorted pundit bobbleheads and youtubers tell us it’s OK to do so. It is harder to genuinely find out whether there is any common ground – any way to move forward in a way that both sides find amenable. If we plug our ears and spit epithets, it’ll be 16 years until we see office again.
I live in Portland and… holy shit did we embarrass ourselves but good. I was nervous when my wife went downtown today. We voted for Hillary (and Obama and Bill) But my wife is 50 years old and has a nice car. She is an energy consultant who educates corporations on how to reduce their carbon footprint through high efficiency LED lighting and HVAC and alternative energy sources, but she looks like a lawyer/banker/etc… I lived in Los Angeles and saw the violence with my own two eyes through my own windshield. I’ve seen the videos of well dressed middle aged people getting dragged out of their nice cars and beaten to the chant of “99%” by OUR F*NG PEOPLE… and it angered me so deeply today that the people with whom I voted, were the people who caused me to fear for my wife’s safety. We kept in contact by a stream of texts today. “I’m here – I’m in the building – everything’s OK and etc. I feared the people with whom I am aligned today. Digest that for a moment. That’s no good. In fact, it’s worse than no good. It’s rotten in ways hard to express with words. I feel betrayed by my own people. It makes a person doubt their own judgement.
Portland, last night, was swamped in “peace loving young Democrats” who devolved into football hooligans and yet were planning more protests today. Not only did we lose the election, we punctuated our failure by lighting things on fire and smashing windows like proper idiots. The Republicans kicked our ass in this election, and they did it on a level playing field. We got positively trounced and we have no one but the reflection in the mirror to blame. They now have the Oval, the Senate, The House & soon the bench. We brought checkers to a chess game, we got cocky and self-righteous and thought we had it “in the bag” and we got flattened. Our only way forward now is to own every single molecule of that stinging failure, take our defeat with dignity knowing that we earned it… and then get back to work and get smart and listen more and talk less and think till we’re tired of thinking – and then think more – till we find a course forward for the things in which we believe.
Anyway. Do we have to trust him? Not right away. Maybe he’ll earn our trust, and maybe not. But we have to be civil to him. We have to respect our republic enough to respect the office he holds. We have to be Americans and act in accordance with our own moral centers, and we have to hit the books hard until we figure out how to win again, because our only other alternative is to be angry and refuse to look inward – and lose election after election until we are well and truly marginalized.
If that last one was too long, you don’t have to post it. It’s mostly for you anyway. Or maybe it was more for me. I think by writing sometimes. Certainly these last few days have been that way, probably to the chagrin of friends & family.
I’ve pretty much coughed up the furball at this point, so don’t worry, my posts will be shorter.
By the way – Lanterns was cool. I liked the tile-switch. His face was priceless.
rM is your safe place the center of a bukkaki circle? I heard your earned your trophy the hard way
No need for words. We feel your pain.
We are here for you. We care. We care. We care.
I’m feeling stunned and helpless.
It’ll get better man. Take some time for yourself. Then let’s get started.
Cried every day since the election.
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I totally feel your pain and heartache. We will grieve and then we will fight. Never, never, never give up because we can’t afford to. But for now, we weep.
Love and positive energy. And a promise to do better.
I work for the International Rescue Committee, and Wednesday was….grim.
But our CEO said something really good during an emergency “now what happens” staff meeting on Wednesday. He started by acknowledging that a lot of us might be feeling sad or angry or betrayed or (insert emotion here) – and what he said was, if you felt that way, then HONOR that. Let yourself feel it, and be okay with feeling that. Because – that was a sign that your ideals for this country were high, and that you cared very, very deeply about them. You wouldn’t be hurting now if you didn’t have that much of an emotional stake in this. And – the good news is, you can still live by those ideals.
Even better – by that point, I’d already had a couple people reach out to me to ask about donating or volunteering, and so when they asked at the meeting if anyone had any questions or comments, I meekly raised my hand and said, “uh, yeah, I got some good news….” and told them that. And it helped a lot.
So yes, go ahead and feel stunned and sad and angry and whatever else. Despite what the chodes think, that is a good thing and that is honorable. And alongside that know that just like Mr Rogers says, the helpers really are out there. And in time you may see a chance to be one of the helpers yourself – even if it’s just a small gesture for someone, once, like speaking up on a message board when someone’s being a dick, or something – that stiill counts.
Just trying to stay positive and look to the future.
Catch your breath. Find your barrings. Allow yourself to step through the emotions.
Was disowned by most of my family today, so I’m definitely feeling your pain.
Hey good guy, if you want to talk Then dont hesitate to contact! 😉
Fluffy kittens.
He will HATE being President. He loves the win and the fight to win, but soon he will pass it on to Mike. I give him 8 months, TOPS. His win proves that anything is possible. He won’t last.
If you need a place to stay, I know some folk here in Scotland. Shetland’s really lovely. I can describe it if you can’t visit I’ll do it as a storyteller would.
Shetland: A land of treeless hills and purple heather.
The land swept bare of trees and shrubs, giving way to deep purple heather, and peat bogs. The burns (creeks) curve and carve over stone hill, moss, and boggy land, only to slip down into the sea below the cliffs and caves. The sea birds call high above as golden sun rays set gently over the isles. The clouds roll in gently as the wind of a Northern gale pushes them over the hills and valleys of Yell (Shetland’s second biggest Island). Lonely crumbled crofts stand silent in stark view as sheep, coos, and horse roam through their shells. The sea breaks upon the stubborn shore as whale, shark, and dolphin peek above to spy peerie seal, puffins, and the odd cat along the shore. The bay watches as ships tug in, drifting in from the far off world. The silence is marred by a peerie gull, begging for a chip from a local. As the golden rays of the sun falls upon the Winter’s Turn, turn your head up to the sky. As your lungs fill with good clean air, the Merrie Dancers appear in clothes of green, blues, and white. They dance and play in the night’s air as Shetland falls silent and the gale comes to a close for the day. Then faintly, ever so faintly a fiddle strikes up, and a Shetland tune is heard. Then a drum, then singing, then of all things, an accordion. The night holds life in the breath of people singing, dancing, playing tunes. The hardship of the Isles is remembered each day, but makes the heart soft towards friends, strangers, and the curious researcher. You might hear a tale of a trow! Or the elves, or fairies. You might hear the sad tale of the Gloup disaster, and the wives who lost so much at sea. A ghost story to scare the young ones, or even a tale of outwitting the Auld Master (the devil). Shetland maybe a lonely place on the surface, but life, calm, and serenity exists in purple heather and the sea.
Look after yourself please. Time away from the internet, sleep, eating, exercise, long phone calls with friends, cuddles, seeing your doctor, whatever you need. It’s a shitty time right now and I feel your pain.
I’m sorry your criminal candidate didn’t get into office. I’m sorry Trump was the Republican that beat Hillary, but at the end of the day, any Republican would have beat her. She rigged her own democrat nomination tanking Bernie, she didn’t care about her own people. Do you know who would have one? Bernie would have won against Trump, and I hate Bernie.
Most of us are not sad because our candidate didn’t get into office. We are not whining. I would be fine with nearly any other republican besides Trump in that office. We are sickened, pained and grieving the fallout that is very real and very much happening that is threatening and already taking the lives of human beings simply for daring to exist. The politics are not what bother us. The hatred running rampant does.
If I’m understanding you correctly, you’re more upset of the hatred that is out there than of any political “upset” that happened. Correct? Well, I don’t think it would have mattered who was in office….Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, etc……the hatred would have continued, just as it is continuing now. I believe that in order to combat this, we must be will to talk to (and with) each other and LISTEN to what others have to say (and feel). Ignoring what everyone says (just because it doesn’t go with your values or thoughts or ideals or whatever) is just plain stupid (IMHO). So grieve if you must, but please dust yourself off as soon as you can. We need you to help us keep those politician in line. They work for US (the American PEOPLE) after all.
Most of us are not sad because our candidate didn’t get into office for the reason that a Republican did. I would be fine with nearly any other republican besides Trump in that office. We are sickened, pained and grieving the fallout that is very real and very much happening that is threatening and already taking the lives of human beings simply for daring to exist. Given permission due to the platform he stands on regarding POC, women, the LGBTQ community, etc. The politics are not what bother us. The hatred for human rights running rampant does.
Take all the time you need. You don’t owe us a response.
This is going to take time to process. Personally, I’m looking at attending a March on Washington that’s planned for 1/20/17, Inauguration Day. Having that date out there, and knowing that I’ll be part of a group of thousands of people who share my outrage gives me a little comfort right now.
We’ll figure out how to get through this in time. The people who are saying that they’ve already moved on either are too dumb to understand how bad this is, or are in denial. I’m going to let Karma deal with them!
Take care,
Lori Yaneff
You’re not alone. A lot of us are feeling that way.
Take good care of yourself. We may not feel up to taking up the good fight today, or even tomorrow, but we will take it up nevertheless. <3
Yip…
I am with you dude 🙁
And it just keeps getting worse… I haven’t gotten a good night’s sleep since Monday night, with all the emotional stress that comes with that…
Yup, that about sums it up.
Reflect and reset I guess.
You did your part. You voted and you lent your voice in support to the candidates that you felt were best for the country. That is more than many can say and certainly more than others have done.
Maybe a Radio Free Burrito episode to just talk it out?
Thank you.
internet hug
Clearly, someone stepped on a butterfly.
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Dude
I know how you feel. 🙁
I’ve been needing so much love this week, both given and received. On election night, before I went to bed, I texted all my closest friends and chosen family about how much I loved them. It got me through the next morning. Then I went to work, and I’m lucky enough to be a substitute who had an assignment at my favorite autism preschool. I hugged the crap out of those munchkins. Then my best friend said she needed something to do, now, and suggested making cards to send to local mosques and Muslim organizations. She’s awesome like that. We bought supplies last night and will put them together tomorrow.
I’m… still adapting, but all of those things have lifted my burden a little. This news is devastating and I’m not going to fool myself into thinking the next few years won’t be at least fairly horrible. Doing nice things for people doesn’t change that. Having nice things done for me doesn’t change that. But they do makes me feel like, no matter what comes, he can’t take away who I am or the wonderful people in my life.
Plus, on some level, I feel like I’m being kind out of spite. Like, “oh, you want to poison my country with bigotry and bully every one of your critics? Well I’M gonna be A DECENT HUMAN BEING. How do you like that, motherfucker?”
Anyway, you rock. Thanks for being so outspoken and awesome through this campaign; I’ve been reading all your tumblr posts from the shadows and they’ve really helped me keep my faith in humanity. As long as people who are as smart and cool as you exist, I’ll be able to hang onto that.
We’re outside of the system and there’s no point in trying to get back in.
Make something different.
The red/blue “close” election con is priceless and sophisticated as hell. Keeps you coming back to buy just one more lotto ticket every two to four years. Because “we” were soooo close. But that fraction of a percentage point is the ocean you will never cross.
You fight this battle one person alone, and face-to-face. Whether we prefer that or not, that’s the situation.
Unity is overrated.
Take the righteous path regardless.
A final thought… black Americans have been suffering under Trumps, large and small, for over three hundred years and they’re still unbroken. I’ve read some articles that said black Americans did not turn out in similar numbers as for Obama in this election. But really, does it surprise you that: A) they saw nothing in either candidate, B) they’re sick of the lies? Not just the lies of the candidates… all the lies. Politicians don’t create lies, they echo ours.
We can learn. Maybe we will. It’s not our country. We just pay rent to the oligarchs.
We’re not Americans. We’re humans. This is not the 17th century. They are no nations anymore. Learn it now or learn it later.
So I take it you’re one of the Globalist. Worse yet, you seem to be one of the “my way or the highway” type Globalist. Not everyone feels the way you do. There are a lot of people who still believe in different nations. Yes, we are all humans, but We The People of the United States of America are STILL and WILL ALWAYS BE —- Americans. Just because it’s the 21st century doesn’t mean that changes.
I’m not an Ist.
Just a monkey with pants.
Saw a great post today and will share – Keep on living, just for spite.
50% of the country feels the same way. You are not alone. We’re still here.
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Relax, Wil.
I’m going for a walk with my cat and to the chess club later for coffee and laughs.
I know. Stay strong and celebrate your joyous event this weekend!